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	<title>Comments on: The A-League: Average Attendance is Down, Canberran Complaints Are Up</title>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 04:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sydney FC and Melbourne turn out decent attendances, but the game needs more grass roots to do it. Prices need to be lowered and more advertisements, for example for each club and not for the league as a whole. There also needs to more publicity for the clubs each, as well as more access to their websites, and they all need a more unique style to their sides. Sydney and Melbourne do well with the goal crowds, for example the Cove. More derbys need to be made, which will increase the profile. Look at the NRL, The eels and bulldogs got 74,549 caus it was a derby. I even went there. If the A-League had good derbys there, it&#039;ll be great. Mind you we are into our first few years, so the crowds are alrite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sydney FC and Melbourne turn out decent attendances, but the game needs more grass roots to do it. Prices need to be lowered and more advertisements, for example for each club and not for the league as a whole. There also needs to more publicity for the clubs each, as well as more access to their websites, and they all need a more unique style to their sides. Sydney and Melbourne do well with the goal crowds, for example the Cove. More derbys need to be made, which will increase the profile. Look at the NRL, The eels and bulldogs got 74,549 caus it was a derby. I even went there. If the A-League had good derbys there, it&#8217;ll be great. Mind you we are into our first few years, so the crowds are alrite.</p>
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		<title>By: Davo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regards to crowd numbers, why does Buckley keep talking about overall crowd numbers rather than average per round/game? The reason is because he is explaining marketing exposure to the sponsors and broadcasters. Yes clubs are suffering with the low crowds affecting their bottom line at the moment, but with a larger overall crowd across the comp and bigger tv audiences each year the more money he will be able to negotiate in our next bradcasting deal. If Ben can secure a massive increase here then the cash will flow freely into all A-league clubs from 2013.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to crowd numbers, why does Buckley keep talking about overall crowd numbers rather than average per round/game? The reason is because he is explaining marketing exposure to the sponsors and broadcasters. Yes clubs are suffering with the low crowds affecting their bottom line at the moment, but with a larger overall crowd across the comp and bigger tv audiences each year the more money he will be able to negotiate in our next bradcasting deal. If Ben can secure a massive increase here then the cash will flow freely into all A-league clubs from 2013.</p>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marcus, well that&#039;s the crux of it. I got the cheapest season ticket available $250 (concession). 

Also the Roar never went into administration. Very close, but never quite went there. Neither did the FFA ever take a share in the club. Just to clear that point up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcus, well that&#8217;s the crux of it. I got the cheapest season ticket available $250 (concession). </p>
<p>Also the Roar never went into administration. Very close, but never quite went there. Neither did the FFA ever take a share in the club. Just to clear that point up.</p>
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		<title>By: Luka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is not one simple reason to explain all of this, which makes it so hard to solve.  

Ok, Roar have put their prices up - but if an average of say $25 per person draws 15,000 people, that&#039;s $375k.  If you pump this up to say $40 per person and only get 7,000, that&#039;s $280k - so less revenue.  You then must ask why did the Roar put their prices up in the first place, and will they remain like this?

Now look at Perth to identify another problem - they have gone and signed 3 established Socceroos, are actually winning games, yet their crowds are exactly the same as last season where they were utter garbage.  Solution?

If the grand solution is to wait for the other codes to finish, then I think the A-League has massive problems.

/gloom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is not one simple reason to explain all of this, which makes it so hard to solve.  </p>
<p>Ok, Roar have put their prices up &#8211; but if an average of say $25 per person draws 15,000 people, that&#8217;s $375k.  If you pump this up to say $40 per person and only get 7,000, that&#8217;s $280k &#8211; so less revenue.  You then must ask why did the Roar put their prices up in the first place, and will they remain like this?</p>
<p>Now look at Perth to identify another problem &#8211; they have gone and signed 3 established Socceroos, are actually winning games, yet their crowds are exactly the same as last season where they were utter garbage.  Solution?</p>
<p>If the grand solution is to wait for the other codes to finish, then I think the A-League has massive problems.</p>
<p>/gloom.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mitch hit the nail on the head, our attendances are low due to all the other codes being around the tail end of the season. I mean im from Melbourne and people cant afford to spend the amount of money they are on the AFL (which is in finals mode atm) then 2 hours after it finishes go and watch Victory play. Melbourne&#039;s crowds this season have been just under 20,000, this month we face 2 of our biggest rivals at home and i think we should hit 30,000 easy with the other codes being finished.

Laurie, Australia only has a population of 20 million people, for a young league in Australia 10,000 attendees per week isn&#039;t bad in my opinion. 30,000 is nothing! I mean USA&#039;s population is ten times bigger than Australia&#039;s.

I support Melbourne and our ticket prices havent changed, my season ticket was $120 (for a conccesion)
I think with Brisbane the two new teams (which are Queensland based) and the rebranding from Queensland to Brisbane may have lost it a few supporters along with the prices and maybe Suncorp stadium (think there was problems there to). Brisbane is in trouble because of Suncorp lets face it, the rent is so high, I mean if you can cast your mind back a year or so went the Roar in administration because of the stadium deal and FFA had to help them out? I think the FFA will step in before it gets to late, Rory my advice as a Melbourne fan is make heaps of noise and get the players on your side, that how we got all our bullshit hooligan like restrictions lifted.

The reason Canberra lost out to West Sydney is because the AFL are planing on expanding there, the A-League wanted to get its nose in there first, they know the AFL won&#039;t go to Canberra for a long while yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mitch hit the nail on the head, our attendances are low due to all the other codes being around the tail end of the season. I mean im from Melbourne and people cant afford to spend the amount of money they are on the AFL (which is in finals mode atm) then 2 hours after it finishes go and watch Victory play. Melbourne&#8217;s crowds this season have been just under 20,000, this month we face 2 of our biggest rivals at home and i think we should hit 30,000 easy with the other codes being finished.</p>
<p>Laurie, Australia only has a population of 20 million people, for a young league in Australia 10,000 attendees per week isn&#8217;t bad in my opinion. 30,000 is nothing! I mean USA&#8217;s population is ten times bigger than Australia&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I support Melbourne and our ticket prices havent changed, my season ticket was $120 (for a conccesion)<br />
I think with Brisbane the two new teams (which are Queensland based) and the rebranding from Queensland to Brisbane may have lost it a few supporters along with the prices and maybe Suncorp stadium (think there was problems there to). Brisbane is in trouble because of Suncorp lets face it, the rent is so high, I mean if you can cast your mind back a year or so went the Roar in administration because of the stadium deal and FFA had to help them out? I think the FFA will step in before it gets to late, Rory my advice as a Melbourne fan is make heaps of noise and get the players on your side, that how we got all our bullshit hooligan like restrictions lifted.</p>
<p>The reason Canberra lost out to West Sydney is because the AFL are planing on expanding there, the A-League wanted to get its nose in there first, they know the AFL won&#8217;t go to Canberra for a long while yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the main cause of the low attendances this year has been that the season has started about a month earlier this year due to an expanded fixture, meaning that our games are being played at the business end of the more popular winter sporting codes (Aussie Rules and Rugby League). 

Many Australians see soccer as a summer alternative to the winter football codes and I think that now that the AFL has finished and the NRL will finish next weekend we should see a steady increase in the crowds. However overall I think attendances will still be slightly down on last year due to the two new teams finding their feet and also the fact that most newly established national soccer leagues enjoy a steady rise in crowds for the first three years then fade after that before steadying. I believe this happened in the J-League and the Korea League and the MLS too, I&#039;m sure fans of these leagues could clarify this as I&#039;m not a 100%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the main cause of the low attendances this year has been that the season has started about a month earlier this year due to an expanded fixture, meaning that our games are being played at the business end of the more popular winter sporting codes (Aussie Rules and Rugby League). </p>
<p>Many Australians see soccer as a summer alternative to the winter football codes and I think that now that the AFL has finished and the NRL will finish next weekend we should see a steady increase in the crowds. However overall I think attendances will still be slightly down on last year due to the two new teams finding their feet and also the fact that most newly established national soccer leagues enjoy a steady rise in crowds for the first three years then fade after that before steadying. I believe this happened in the J-League and the Korea League and the MLS too, I&#8217;m sure fans of these leagues could clarify this as I&#8217;m not a 100%.</p>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daryl,

It is mostly the Roar&#039;s problem. Other prices have gone up a touch or stayed the same. But the Roar&#039;s prices have gone up roughly 30% per game.The biggest problem are family tickets. But still it the professional staff that are the problem. Maybe they don&#039;t have enough, or maybe they don&#039;t have the skills, whatever the case may be, the club is on track to die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daryl,</p>
<p>It is mostly the Roar&#8217;s problem. Other prices have gone up a touch or stayed the same. But the Roar&#8217;s prices have gone up roughly 30% per game.The biggest problem are family tickets. But still it the professional staff that are the problem. Maybe they don&#8217;t have enough, or maybe they don&#8217;t have the skills, whatever the case may be, the club is on track to die.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seattle it is.  Average attendance over 30,000 per home game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seattle it is.  Average attendance over 30,000 per home game.</p>
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		<title>By: Davo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where you from Seattle?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where you from Seattle?</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not in my city, Davo.  :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not in my city, Davo.  :-D</p>
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