Comments on: Toni Tells Kahn To Stick It (With His Boots) http://www.theoffside.com/leagues/bundesliga/toni-tells-kahn-to-stick-it-with-his-boots.html League Football, Soccer News and Views from Around the World Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:09:10 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Angela http://www.theoffside.com/leagues/bundesliga/toni-tells-kahn-to-stick-it-with-his-boots.html#comment-87495 Angela Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:58:57 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/leagues/bundesliga/toni-tells-kahn-to-stick-it-with-his-boots.html#comment-87495 Offside!Toni came out and did his thing. Oli will be quiet for a little bit, but not long. He always has something to say. Unfortunately, for me, I think it would be in Lukas' best interest to leave Bayern. His odds of being a starter as long as Miro and Toni are there are slim to none.. Offside!Toni came out and did his thing. Oli will be quiet for a little bit, but not long. He always has something to say. Unfortunately, for me, I think it would be in Lukas’ best interest to leave Bayern. His odds of being a starter as long as Miro and Toni are there are slim to none..

]]> By: Magnusson http://www.theoffside.com/leagues/bundesliga/toni-tells-kahn-to-stick-it-with-his-boots.html#comment-87419 Magnusson Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:16:31 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/leagues/bundesliga/toni-tells-kahn-to-stick-it-with-his-boots.html#comment-87419 I don't believ Kahn to be a racist. A monumental asshole like his brother Jens Lehmann? sure. But i think he was super good friends with Manu Kuffour still I don’t believ Kahn to be a racist. A monumental asshole like his brother Jens Lehmann? sure. But i think he was super good friends with Manu Kuffour still

]]> By: Jan http://www.theoffside.com/leagues/bundesliga/toni-tells-kahn-to-stick-it-with-his-boots.html#comment-87401 Jan Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:28:23 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/leagues/bundesliga/toni-tells-kahn-to-stick-it-with-his-boots.html#comment-87401 Chris, the racist, xenophobe and Arian remarks all popped up in the comments of those articles. That's why I wrote the Offside articles are 'misleading'. I know it's poking fun, that's why it got on my nerves to see people turning this into a stamping Kahn as racist thing so quickly and willingly. Chris, the racist, xenophobe and Arian remarks all popped up in the comments of those articles. That’s why I wrote the Offside articles are ‘misleading’. I know it’s poking fun, that’s why it got on my nerves to see people turning this into a stamping Kahn as racist thing so quickly and willingly.

]]> By: chris http://www.theoffside.com/leagues/bundesliga/toni-tells-kahn-to-stick-it-with-his-boots.html#comment-87391 chris Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:38:10 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/leagues/bundesliga/toni-tells-kahn-to-stick-it-with-his-boots.html#comment-87391 Jan, most everybody knows Olli is an ass. But I think we're just trying to poke fun at one isolated incident. I can't speak for everyone, but I try not to generalize as much as I can. Cause and effect varies greatly with reason. (And I'm not sure where it's being said that he's racist. By saying "the foreigners are alright", I just meant Toni and Ribery, the obvious targets of his statements.) Jan, most everybody knows Olli is an ass. But I think we’re just trying to poke fun at one isolated incident. I can’t speak for everyone, but I try not to generalize as much as I can. Cause and effect varies greatly with reason. (And I’m not sure where it’s being said that he’s racist. By saying “the foreigners are alright”, I just meant Toni and Ribery, the obvious targets of his statements.)

]]> By: Laurie http://www.theoffside.com/leagues/bundesliga/toni-tells-kahn-to-stick-it-with-his-boots.html#comment-87366 Laurie Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:23:31 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/leagues/bundesliga/toni-tells-kahn-to-stick-it-with-his-boots.html#comment-87366 I can always count on you for the man-love photos. Thanks, Chris. I can always count on you for the man-love photos. Thanks, Chris.

]]> By: Shazback http://www.theoffside.com/leagues/bundesliga/toni-tells-kahn-to-stick-it-with-his-boots.html#comment-87363 Shazback Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:01:59 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/leagues/bundesliga/toni-tells-kahn-to-stick-it-with-his-boots.html#comment-87363 I honestly feel that Kahn's declarations are far from being dispelled by this game... Ribery still can't cross a ball properly (he attempted 3 crosses, none found a striker, although one was fumbled by the goalkeeper to Luca Toni), and Toni didn't once get away from his man-marker to create space, meaning he could only score off goalkeeping errors. Look at the game differently, and put, say, Coupet, Casillas, Buffon or Cech in goal. Would Toni have scored once? Nope. Why? Because he didn't get away from his marker to be able to recieve passes to the feet and score. Would Ribery have any assists? Nope. Sure, he'd have tired out his defender, beaten him countless times, but a winger's role is also to give the ball to the striker, something that Ribery just didn't do against Aris. In fact, if Coupet, Buffon, Cech or Casillas (or even Van der Sar, Reina or Kahn himself) were in goal, Bayern would have only won 1-0. And Lell would have scored it off a great pass by... Podolski. Sure, every goal counts. But when a striker has only four shots in a game, and all four are from gross goalkeeper mistakes, then he's not doing his job properly, sorry. When a winger doesn't make one decent cross in a game, then it's worth peanuts that he can beat his man day in day out. Toni has scored 1 goal in the last 8 Bundesliga games, and Ribery scores as many goals as he creates chances for the strikers (4 in 17 Bundesliga games) because he almost never makes a precise cross or through-ball. I watched Bayern vs. Duisburg and honestly, you didn't think you were seeing the best team of the league playing against the 2nd worst... Ribery's crossing was poor, with balls that were too long or too short, only one that could have been a proper cross... But it dipped in front of the defender (Van Buyten). Toni was invisible, save a cheeky flick off a Lahm cross... Even when Bayern were 11 against 10 it never looked like Bayern would take the three points! I honestly feel that Kahn’s declarations are far from being dispelled by this game… Ribery still can’t cross a ball properly (he attempted 3 crosses, none found a striker, although one was fumbled by the goalkeeper to Luca Toni), and Toni didn’t once get away from his man-marker to create space, meaning he could only score off goalkeeping errors.

Look at the game differently, and put, say, Coupet, Casillas, Buffon or Cech in goal. Would Toni have scored once? Nope. Why? Because he didn’t get away from his marker to be able to recieve passes to the feet and score. Would Ribery have any assists? Nope. Sure, he’d have tired out his defender, beaten him countless times, but a winger’s role is also to give the ball to the striker, something that Ribery just didn’t do against Aris.

In fact, if Coupet, Buffon, Cech or Casillas (or even Van der Sar, Reina or Kahn himself) were in goal, Bayern would have only won 1-0. And Lell would have scored it off a great pass by… Podolski.

Sure, every goal counts. But when a striker has only four shots in a game, and all four are from gross goalkeeper mistakes, then he’s not doing his job properly, sorry. When a winger doesn’t make one decent cross in a game, then it’s worth peanuts that he can beat his man day in day out.

Toni has scored 1 goal in the last 8 Bundesliga games, and Ribery scores as many goals as he creates chances for the strikers (4 in 17 Bundesliga games) because he almost never makes a precise cross or through-ball.

I watched Bayern vs. Duisburg and honestly, you didn’t think you were seeing the best team of the league playing against the 2nd worst… Ribery’s crossing was poor, with balls that were too long or too short, only one that could have been a proper cross… But it dipped in front of the defender (Van Buyten). Toni was invisible, save a cheeky flick off a Lahm cross… Even when Bayern were 11 against 10 it never looked like Bayern would take the three points!

]]> By: Jan http://www.theoffside.com/leagues/bundesliga/toni-tells-kahn-to-stick-it-with-his-boots.html#comment-87358 Jan Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:44:09 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/leagues/bundesliga/toni-tells-kahn-to-stick-it-with-his-boots.html#comment-87358 Oliver Kahn has been dissing plenty of "Arians" in his career and he got along fine with a shitload of foreigners at Bayern Munich. It's not like Ribery and Toni are Bayern's first ever foreigners. I find this "blaming the foreigners" stance that all Offside posts about his outburst take very misleading. He has been an ass towards his team mates, he showed no respect towards clubs like Fiorentina or Marseille, who are both great European clubs etc. That's one of many reasons why I never was much of a fan of him, even if I respect his goalkeeping qualities. But it really pisses me of to see, how willing people are to mark him as racist, xenophobe with an Arian superiority complex. Oliver Kahn has been dissing plenty of “Arians” in his career and he got along fine with a shitload of foreigners at Bayern Munich. It’s not like Ribery and Toni are Bayern’s first ever foreigners. I find this “blaming the foreigners” stance that all Offside posts about his outburst take very misleading. He has been an ass towards his team mates, he showed no respect towards clubs like Fiorentina or Marseille, who are both great European clubs etc. That’s one of many reasons why I never was much of a fan of him, even if I respect his goalkeeping qualities. But it really pisses me of to see, how willing people are to mark him as racist, xenophobe with an Arian superiority complex.

]]> By: Corey http://www.theoffside.com/leagues/bundesliga/toni-tells-kahn-to-stick-it-with-his-boots.html#comment-87351 Corey Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:04:01 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/leagues/bundesliga/toni-tells-kahn-to-stick-it-with-his-boots.html#comment-87351 He didnt mean to get Bayern rolling again, he meant to try and scare the foreigners away from his beloved Arian outpost, Bayern Munich. Such a dumbass. Ohh, and Chris, thanks for putting highlight clips up from DailyMotion, YouTube stuff is blocked at work, not DailyMotion. He didnt mean to get Bayern rolling again, he meant to try and scare the foreigners away from his beloved Arian outpost, Bayern Munich. Such a dumbass. Ohh, and Chris, thanks for putting highlight clips up from DailyMotion, YouTube stuff is blocked at work, not DailyMotion.

]]> By: Christian http://www.theoffside.com/leagues/bundesliga/toni-tells-kahn-to-stick-it-with-his-boots.html#comment-87340 Christian Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:09:53 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/leagues/bundesliga/toni-tells-kahn-to-stick-it-with-his-boots.html#comment-87340 Good for Kahn. He's the captain yes? It's his job to get the troops riled up. He a CL and Bundesliga winner, and if his remarks get Bayern rolling again, then all power to him. Good for Kahn. He’s the captain yes? It’s his job to get the troops riled up. He a CL and Bundesliga winner, and if his remarks get Bayern rolling again, then all power to him.

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