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		<title>By: Shazback</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shazback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real problem is more that it&#039;s just a show-pony cup. if you add one game (by making it 8 teams) for the South American, European and retaining champions, you increase the risk that the competition isn&#039;t taken seriously by the players and the managers themselves. Look at Manchester United, who are going to play at the very least 38 League games, 8 Champions&#039; League games, 4 League Cup games and 1 FA Cup game (notice the &quot;very least&quot;)... That&#039;s already 51 games and you add the Club World Cup on top of that (and you can probably increase the FA Cup by 2 or 3 since it would be surprising if Man U dropped out in the first round). If you want your star players to be able to play in the &quot;important&quot; games, then you rest them for the unimportant ones when you have so many games. So if Man U (or next year&#039;s European Champion) have to play the OFC or AFC champions, I&#039;d be surprised if the starting XI is really &quot;full strength&quot;. You&#039;re in a period where you&#039;re playing every three days, so every extra bit of rest for your star players needs to be taken (also, injuries). For South American clubs I guess it&#039;s similar, albeit the Club World Cup might be considered a more premier trophy in South America than in Europe.

The timing is obviously difficult for the European sides, but it is only played so late because of how late the AFC Champions&#039; League finishes. If the CWC is played in summer (in the European pre-season), then the AFC representative will have been the winner from the previous year (this might also be the case for CAF, CONMEBOL, CONCACAF and OFC). 

Is the CWC an ideal tournament? Nope. But it was intended as a cash cow for OFC/CAF/AFC on the back of the Intercontinental Cup. If Man U send a B team (or C team), the competition suffers from the lack of &quot;stars&quot; and ultimately could become a &quot;worthless&quot; cup (Anglo-Italian Cup anybody?) constantly won by the underdogs because the supposedly &quot;better&quot; teams just decide it&#039;s not worth it. What is the value of the CWC for the European Champions? Winning the trophy, media coverage (particularly in Japan and the rest of Asia, since it&#039;s played there, and the added bonus of slight exposition around the world in a competition branded as the &quot;World Cup&quot; by FIFA)... And that&#039;s about it. The added media coverage for Man U though seems negligable, so there&#039;s also the side that Man U do not want to lose (image). What Man U don&#039;t want is to play against minnows (risk of injury, especially against slow and clumsy players, see Eduardo), and want to be out and back as quickly and effortlessly as possible. LDU Quito probably have the same opinion. But for the AFC, OFC and to a lesser extent CONCACAF and CAF champions, their main advantage is playing against Man U or LDU Quito, who are champions of &quot;better&quot; confederations. Beating either of them grants bragging rights and a crack at the final, with the possibility of becoming the first club in their confederation to be &quot;World Champion&quot;. Oh, and the media coverage about playing Manchester United is probably slightly higher than your average AFC or OFC game, just sayin&#039;.

The real risk if the CWC expands is that either the European champions or the South American champions start to consider that it&#039;s too much of a burden in the middle of the season and send weakened teams. If an AFC/OFC club gets to the final once, it&#039;s a great achievement. But if they start getting there regularly, it will reduce the interest in the competition, knowing fully well that the European Champions are only sending a B team, or resting their key players for the final. 

The CWC 2001 never took place for several reasons (including bankrupcy of the organisers), but with 5 games scheduled to win the trophy, mostly against badly-known teams (Real Madrid had to play Jubilo Iwata, Hearts of Oak and LA Galaxy, and I believe only a few specialists can name more than one player in any of those three teams from 2001) over 20-odd days, the clubs weren&#039;t all too happy... How do you do a proper pre-season warm-up when you&#039;re playing games almost as early as players return from holiday (28th July)? Part of the negociations that followed between FIFA and the different confederations agreed on this bizarre format in order to -not- overload the calendar of UEFA and CONCACAF teams, and thus ensure that they wouldn&#039;t pull out of the cup nor send a vastly weakened team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real problem is more that it&#8217;s just a show-pony cup. if you add one game (by making it 8 teams) for the South American, European and retaining champions, you increase the risk that the competition isn&#8217;t taken seriously by the players and the managers themselves. Look at Manchester United, who are going to play at the very least 38 League games, 8 Champions&#8217; League games, 4 League Cup games and 1 FA Cup game (notice the &#8220;very least&#8221;)&#8230; That&#8217;s already 51 games and you add the Club World Cup on top of that (and you can probably increase the FA Cup by 2 or 3 since it would be surprising if Man U dropped out in the first round). If you want your star players to be able to play in the &#8220;important&#8221; games, then you rest them for the unimportant ones when you have so many games. So if Man U (or next year&#8217;s European Champion) have to play the OFC or AFC champions, I&#8217;d be surprised if the starting XI is really &#8220;full strength&#8221;. You&#8217;re in a period where you&#8217;re playing every three days, so every extra bit of rest for your star players needs to be taken (also, injuries). For South American clubs I guess it&#8217;s similar, albeit the Club World Cup might be considered a more premier trophy in South America than in Europe.</p>
<p>The timing is obviously difficult for the European sides, but it is only played so late because of how late the AFC Champions&#8217; League finishes. If the CWC is played in summer (in the European pre-season), then the AFC representative will have been the winner from the previous year (this might also be the case for CAF, CONMEBOL, CONCACAF and OFC). </p>
<p>Is the CWC an ideal tournament? Nope. But it was intended as a cash cow for OFC/CAF/AFC on the back of the Intercontinental Cup. If Man U send a B team (or C team), the competition suffers from the lack of &#8220;stars&#8221; and ultimately could become a &#8220;worthless&#8221; cup (Anglo-Italian Cup anybody?) constantly won by the underdogs because the supposedly &#8220;better&#8221; teams just decide it&#8217;s not worth it. What is the value of the CWC for the European Champions? Winning the trophy, media coverage (particularly in Japan and the rest of Asia, since it&#8217;s played there, and the added bonus of slight exposition around the world in a competition branded as the &#8220;World Cup&#8221; by FIFA)&#8230; And that&#8217;s about it. The added media coverage for Man U though seems negligable, so there&#8217;s also the side that Man U do not want to lose (image). What Man U don&#8217;t want is to play against minnows (risk of injury, especially against slow and clumsy players, see Eduardo), and want to be out and back as quickly and effortlessly as possible. LDU Quito probably have the same opinion. But for the AFC, OFC and to a lesser extent CONCACAF and CAF champions, their main advantage is playing against Man U or LDU Quito, who are champions of &#8220;better&#8221; confederations. Beating either of them grants bragging rights and a crack at the final, with the possibility of becoming the first club in their confederation to be &#8220;World Champion&#8221;. Oh, and the media coverage about playing Manchester United is probably slightly higher than your average AFC or OFC game, just sayin&#8217;.</p>
<p>The real risk if the CWC expands is that either the European champions or the South American champions start to consider that it&#8217;s too much of a burden in the middle of the season and send weakened teams. If an AFC/OFC club gets to the final once, it&#8217;s a great achievement. But if they start getting there regularly, it will reduce the interest in the competition, knowing fully well that the European Champions are only sending a B team, or resting their key players for the final. </p>
<p>The CWC 2001 never took place for several reasons (including bankrupcy of the organisers), but with 5 games scheduled to win the trophy, mostly against badly-known teams (Real Madrid had to play Jubilo Iwata, Hearts of Oak and LA Galaxy, and I believe only a few specialists can name more than one player in any of those three teams from 2001) over 20-odd days, the clubs weren&#8217;t all too happy&#8230; How do you do a proper pre-season warm-up when you&#8217;re playing games almost as early as players return from holiday (28th July)? Part of the negociations that followed between FIFA and the different confederations agreed on this bizarre format in order to -not- overload the calendar of UEFA and CONCACAF teams, and thus ensure that they wouldn&#8217;t pull out of the cup nor send a vastly weakened team.</p>
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		<title>By: Weston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 02:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how bout top 3 from each comp w/ the the winners getting a bye</description>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Brahm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Brahm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also could have two South American teams instead or European.</description>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Brahm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Brahm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FA Cup has replays.</description>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Brahm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Brahm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The great thing about the tournament is that it is a one and done tournament, no replays as the FA, no home-away 2 leg matches.
However, it needs to go to eight team format, all region winners, host and defending champion.
There would be Seeding as follows
1. UEFA Champions League Champion
2. Libertadores Champion (would rotate with UEFA in a draw)
3. Defending Champion
4-7 Other regional champs (done with a draw)
8. Host nation

This would allow some random matches and the hopefully match up of two European teams either in a final or semi final, may have to put them in other side of the bracket.

Each team is guaranteed three games.

4 quarterfinals, 2 semifinals, 2 loser&#039;s bracket, final and 3 placements matches.

Tournament takes 7 to 8 days excluding travel to and from host nation. Only needs two venues with back to back matches.
.Defending champion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The great thing about the tournament is that it is a one and done tournament, no replays as the FA, no home-away 2 leg matches.<br />
However, it needs to go to eight team format, all region winners, host and defending champion.<br />
There would be Seeding as follows<br />
1. UEFA Champions League Champion<br />
2. Libertadores Champion (would rotate with UEFA in a draw)<br />
3. Defending Champion<br />
4-7 Other regional champs (done with a draw)<br />
8. Host nation</p>
<p>This would allow some random matches and the hopefully match up of two European teams either in a final or semi final, may have to put them in other side of the bracket.</p>
<p>Each team is guaranteed three games.</p>
<p>4 quarterfinals, 2 semifinals, 2 loser&#8217;s bracket, final and 3 placements matches.</p>
<p>Tournament takes 7 to 8 days excluding travel to and from host nation. Only needs two venues with back to back matches.<br />
.Defending champion</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get rid of it, I say.</description>
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		<title>By: Ronald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fine. Doubt LDU Quito all you want. Some poster from this site ( i forget who somtimes ) went on the offside podcast and said LDU had no chance to win the Copa Livertadores...we all know how that turned out -_- lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fine. Doubt LDU Quito all you want. Some poster from this site ( i forget who somtimes ) went on the offside podcast and said LDU had no chance to win the Copa Livertadores&#8230;we all know how that turned out -_- lol</p>
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		<title>By: Flippy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make it a 2 month long tournament in the Summer (august, july) and make it like a preseason tournament. Also maybe the top four of each continent. And why are there 7 teams? Does Antartica count?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make it a 2 month long tournament in the Summer (august, july) and make it like a preseason tournament. Also maybe the top four of each continent. And why are there 7 teams? Does Antartica count?</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, I&#039;ve never stopped to think about why this tournament doesn&#039;t interest me, but you&#039;ve gotten all the reasons just right.

Although a lot of it is also timing.  A tournament that&#039;s in the middle of the European season almost feels doomed to fail.  I know the world doesn&#039;t revolve around Europe, but let&#039;s face it.  That&#039;s where all the money is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I&#8217;ve never stopped to think about why this tournament doesn&#8217;t interest me, but you&#8217;ve gotten all the reasons just right.</p>
<p>Although a lot of it is also timing.  A tournament that&#8217;s in the middle of the European season almost feels doomed to fail.  I know the world doesn&#8217;t revolve around Europe, but let&#8217;s face it.  That&#8217;s where all the money is.</p>
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		<title>By: alessio</title>
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		<dc:creator>alessio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha!

A lot of people agree that Milan&#039;s participation in the CWC is the reason they finished 5th.</description>
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<p>A lot of people agree that Milan&#8217;s participation in the CWC is the reason they finished 5th.</p>
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