Comments on: An Ode To Hyperbole http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/an-ode-to-hyperbole.html League Football, Soccer News and Views from Around the World Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:45:33 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Captain Obvious http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/an-ode-to-hyperbole.html#comment-132416 Captain Obvious Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:32:59 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/an-ode-to-hyperbole.html#comment-132416 KFA - Aren't you inherently wasting your own time by posting a comment like that? The extraneous ellipsis dots at the end of your comment are a further waste of time. You would have been better served reading the intelligent discussion rather than signaling to your guardian via the Internet that it's time for your afternoon Ritalin. KFA – Aren’t you inherently wasting your own time by posting a comment like that? The extraneous ellipsis dots at the end of your comment are a further waste of time. You would have been better served reading the intelligent discussion rather than signaling to your guardian via the Internet that it’s time for your afternoon Ritalin.

]]> By: KFA http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/an-ode-to-hyperbole.html#comment-132415 KFA Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:08:59 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/an-ode-to-hyperbole.html#comment-132415 wow i just skipped the last 4 comments there too big for me to waste time on............. wow i just skipped the last 4 comments there too big for me to waste time on………….

]]> By: j http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/an-ode-to-hyperbole.html#comment-132395 j Fri, 08 Aug 2008 08:52:28 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/an-ode-to-hyperbole.html#comment-132395 Shazback - Let me clarify then, I said "by most forecasts" will be the first and the majority of forecasts point to that direction, although that is based upon proformas and different firms opinions. We both know they are subject to market conditions and of course can change quite a bit (which they have when you consider the recent pull-back in commodity prices). However if they and Exxon both are trillion-dollar companies, I'm not going to be concerned who is first for this purpose. My point is there are very few clubs that can even come close to their financial position and at this stage Tottenham's offer is very far off the asking price. I don't think many people understand how Football transactions work and in this situation, the english-speaking media is having a field-day with exaggerated claims. The major reason this deal is stalling is the structure that Tottenham is proposing which is back-end laden deal based upon player and team incentives and definitely not a firm price. As far as SWF's investments in Football, I think they've done a great job at raising the level of domestic leagues but as of this date they haven't shown the same interest in raising international play. That could change of-course and it would great to see because there is great Football in the area and the people deserve it. I respect your opinion in this and to be honest I think the entire situation on transfer prices and the ridiculous prices they've reached needs to be dealt with by regulatory bodies or this sport is headed for some serious trouble. Shazback – Let me clarify then, I said “by most forecasts” will be the first and the majority of forecasts point to that direction, although that is based upon proformas and different firms opinions. We both know they are subject to market conditions and of course can change quite a bit (which they have when you consider the recent pull-back in commodity prices). However if they and Exxon both are trillion-dollar companies, I’m not going to be concerned who is first for this purpose. My point is there are very few clubs that can even come close to their financial position and at this stage Tottenham’s offer is very far off the asking price. I don’t think many people understand how Football transactions work and in this situation, the english-speaking media is having a field-day with exaggerated claims. The major reason this deal is stalling is the structure that Tottenham is proposing which is back-end laden deal based upon player and team incentives and definitely not a firm price. As far as SWF’s investments in Football, I think they’ve done a great job at raising the level of domestic leagues but as of this date they haven’t shown the same interest in raising international play. That could change of-course and it would great to see because there is great Football in the area and the people deserve it. I respect your opinion in this and to be honest I think the entire situation on transfer prices and the ridiculous prices they’ve reached needs to be dealt with by regulatory bodies or this sport is headed for some serious trouble.

]]> By: Shazback http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/an-ode-to-hyperbole.html#comment-132390 Shazback Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:31:44 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/an-ode-to-hyperbole.html#comment-132390 j - I think most clubs do know that they're bargaining with Gazprom. But still, Gazprom has a business to run, and unlike Abramovich (who's just in it for the glory), Gazprom don't want to loose lots of money (losing a bit is OK, mind you). Gazprom are very rich, but they're not the highest market capitalisation... Nor do they seem likely to be the first company to break the 1-trillion mark. Exxon-Mobil seems to be far more likely. According to the Financial Times, Gazprom's market cap is about 350 billion US$. Exxonmobil's is 470 billion US$. Also, Exxonmobil's net income is 30 times greater than Gazprom's (40 billion vs. 1.5 billion)... In all honesty, the argument you're making is pretty moot... Dubai, Saudi Arabia and Qutar all have various state companies (often non-market listed and thus making it difficult to compare with market listed companies) that have strong ownerships (often via Cheiks or other high ranking officials) in football clubs. This hasn't stopped these clubs from selling their best assets, nor enabled them to force players to stay in second rate leagues with multi-million offer deals when said players are contacted by lesser clubs in more important leagues... j – I think most clubs do know that they’re bargaining with Gazprom. But still, Gazprom has a business to run, and unlike Abramovich (who’s just in it for the glory), Gazprom don’t want to loose lots of money (losing a bit is OK, mind you).

Gazprom are very rich, but they’re not the highest market capitalisation… Nor do they seem likely to be the first company to break the 1-trillion mark. Exxon-Mobil seems to be far more likely. According to the Financial Times, Gazprom’s market cap is about 350 billion US$. Exxonmobil’s is 470 billion US$. Also, Exxonmobil’s net income is 30 times greater than Gazprom’s (40 billion vs. 1.5 billion)…

In all honesty, the argument you’re making is pretty moot… Dubai, Saudi Arabia and Qutar all have various state companies (often non-market listed and thus making it difficult to compare with market listed companies) that have strong ownerships (often via Cheiks or other high ranking officials) in football clubs. This hasn’t stopped these clubs from selling their best assets, nor enabled them to force players to stay in second rate leagues with multi-million offer deals when said players are contacted by lesser clubs in more important leagues…

]]> By: j http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/an-ode-to-hyperbole.html#comment-132376 j Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:41:53 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/an-ode-to-hyperbole.html#comment-132376 Chris - if you can send me an email I'll fill you more on this. As it relates to this transfer price I don't think many people in the Football world have considered who they are bargaining with. Zenit is owned by Gasprom, which by most forecasts, will be the world's first company with a capitalized value of over a trillion dollars. While they will respect a players wishes, they also are going to act in their clubs best interest and if you want to acquire one of their players, you're going to have to hit the terms they have set. So far all suggestions haven't even come close and mostly been back-end deals. Chris – if you can send me an email I’ll fill you more on this. As it relates to this transfer price I don’t think many people in the Football world have considered who they are bargaining with. Zenit is owned by Gasprom, which by most forecasts, will be the world’s first company with a capitalized value of over a trillion dollars. While they will respect a players wishes, they also are going to act in their clubs best interest and if you want to acquire one of their players, you’re going to have to hit the terms they have set. So far all suggestions haven’t even come close and mostly been back-end deals.

]]> By: Greg http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/an-ode-to-hyperbole.html#comment-132374 Greg Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:50:38 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/an-ode-to-hyperbole.html#comment-132374 Say, Christobelle, was you going through my old posts and stealing a few things? Do you prefer "originality victim" or "blog-ually challenged?" First, the word "hyperbole" was invented by me June 12, 2007. For proof, please see the following blog entry for evidence: <a href="http://portugal.theoffside.com/super-liga/ultimate-super-hyperbole.html" rel="nofollow">Christobelle the Thief, Evidence #1.</a> Second, the following type of joke regarding the weakness of the American currency: "£25m is batshit crazy (that’s like $6trillion for the Americans in the house)" is mine. I make it all the time. I've ruined it. Like your sister's va-jay-jay. If I catch you on my blog stealing again, it's on. Go to a fucking seminar on writing and being original or something. I'm done with you for now, I gotta go get some artificially distressed Converse sneakers, a trucker hat, and some eyeliner for later. Say, Christobelle, was you going through my old posts and stealing a few things? Do you prefer “originality victim” or “blog-ually challenged?”

First, the word “hyperbole” was invented by me June 12, 2007. For proof, please see the following blog entry for evidence: Christobelle the Thief, Evidence #1.

Second, the following type of joke regarding the weakness of the American currency: “£25m is batshit crazy (that’s like $6trillion for the Americans in the house)” is mine. I make it all the time. I’ve ruined it. Like your sister’s va-jay-jay.

If I catch you on my blog stealing again, it’s on. Go to a fucking seminar on writing and being original or something. I’m done with you for now, I gotta go get some artificially distressed Converse sneakers, a trucker hat, and some eyeliner for later.

]]> By: ben http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/an-ode-to-hyperbole.html#comment-132373 ben Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:41:45 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/an-ode-to-hyperbole.html#comment-132373 He's 27?! How come no one's ever heard of him till this year? Did he take skill 'roids last summer? /if skill 'roids existed, I would take them He’s 27?! How come no one’s ever heard of him till this year? Did he take skill ‘roids last summer?

/if skill ‘roids existed, I would take them

]]> By: john http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/an-ode-to-hyperbole.html#comment-132372 john Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:03:57 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/an-ode-to-hyperbole.html#comment-132372 Chris. It's official. You're my hero. Chris. It’s official. You’re my hero.

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