Comments on: Any Dutch Readers Out There? Is This for Real? http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/any-dutch-readers-out-there-is-this-for-real.html League Football, Soccer News and Views from Around the World Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:24:39 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: justjack http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/any-dutch-readers-out-there-is-this-for-real.html#comment-87185 justjack Thu, 20 Dec 2007 00:11:41 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/any-dutch-readers-out-there-is-this-for-real.html#comment-87185 I guess my kiddles are in good hands. Compressing the field on def. is the only they've ever heard. Maybe it's their generation that'll shift it to the global standard as their AYSO and club coaches move into HS and University positions? joe's right about the through-balls vs. crossing. In EPL you see crosses from the outside as an instant exploitive movement which occurs much less frequently. Some of the reason I think we see the over-use of the cross from the outside in MLS is ball handling skills. I see much better individual beats from U16 AYSO & Club kids and skillful use of triangle-offensive drives (up the middle) on goal and I almost never see that on MLS. OTOH, I've seen Demarcus Beasley embarrass many a defender in the SPL.... so mebbe there're more 'Merkin footballers with skillz on the way up. I guess my kiddles are in good hands. Compressing the field on def. is the only they’ve ever heard. Maybe it’s their generation that’ll shift it to the global standard as their AYSO and club coaches move into HS and University positions?

joe’s right about the through-balls vs. crossing. In EPL you see crosses from the outside as an instant exploitive movement which occurs much less frequently. Some of the reason I think we see the over-use of the cross from the outside in MLS is ball handling skills. I see much better individual beats from U16 AYSO & Club kids and skillful use of triangle-offensive drives (up the middle) on goal and I almost never see that on MLS. OTOH, I’ve seen Demarcus Beasley embarrass many a defender in the SPL…. so mebbe there’re more ‘Merkin footballers with skillz on the way up.

]]> By: George http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/any-dutch-readers-out-there-is-this-for-real.html#comment-86294 George Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:25:26 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/any-dutch-readers-out-there-is-this-for-real.html#comment-86294 Now I feel proud that my American soccer coach told me that. Looks like he knows his stuff! Now I feel proud that my American soccer coach told me that. Looks like he knows his stuff!

]]> By: Rakibuzzaman http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/any-dutch-readers-out-there-is-this-for-real.html#comment-85534 Rakibuzzaman Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:48:19 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/any-dutch-readers-out-there-is-this-for-real.html#comment-85534 It must be said that Gullit isn't really known for his tactical ability either, in fact, that's one of the reasons he's no longer viewed as a credible candidate to take over a top level team. Also interesting I think: his acknowledgment and approval of special treatments for star players. Which is obviously why he was brought to LA. Wonder how the other players will react to that though. It must be said that Gullit isn’t really known for his tactical ability either, in fact, that’s one of the reasons he’s no longer viewed as a credible candidate to take over a top level team.

Also interesting I think: his acknowledgment and approval of special treatments for star players. Which is obviously why he was brought to LA. Wonder how the other players will react to that though.

]]> By: Laurie http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/any-dutch-readers-out-there-is-this-for-real.html#comment-85515 Laurie Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:20:34 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/any-dutch-readers-out-there-is-this-for-real.html#comment-85515 Thank you, Rakibuzzaman. I assumed they were, just because the guy who wrote the post wasn't sure how to spell Cobi. That tells me he heard it somewhere and wasn't just making fun of MLS. I find this kind of appalling. Thank you, Rakibuzzaman. I assumed they were, just because the guy who wrote the post wasn’t sure how to spell Cobi. That tells me he heard it somewhere and wasn’t just making fun of MLS.

I find this kind of appalling.

]]> By: Rakibuzzaman http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/any-dutch-readers-out-there-is-this-for-real.html#comment-85514 Rakibuzzaman Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:18:49 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/any-dutch-readers-out-there-is-this-for-real.html#comment-85514 Yup, I saw that and those were his exact words. Yup, I saw that and those were his exact words.

]]> By: QJA http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/any-dutch-readers-out-there-is-this-for-real.html#comment-85507 QJA Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:54:50 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/any-dutch-readers-out-there-is-this-for-real.html#comment-85507 Couldn't have said it any better, Joe. Couldn’t have said it any better, Joe.

]]> By: Eluvsdynamo http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/any-dutch-readers-out-there-is-this-for-real.html#comment-85502 Eluvsdynamo Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:48:19 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/any-dutch-readers-out-there-is-this-for-real.html#comment-85502 joe, that makes a lot of sense. as a matter of fact in the premier league you see a lot of thru balls and, the dynamo for intense spends a lot of time giving the ball to mullan so he can cross the ball. what i coach my boys is to bring the ball to the middle, attract a couple of players. once the outside guy gets open, give him the ball either shoot or cross based on the distance and angle from the goal. joe, that makes a lot of sense. as a matter of fact in the premier league you see a lot of thru balls and, the dynamo for intense spends a lot of time giving the ball to mullan so he can cross the ball. what i coach my boys is to bring the ball to the middle, attract a couple of players. once the outside guy gets open, give him the ball either shoot or cross based on the distance and angle from the goal.

]]> By: joe http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/any-dutch-readers-out-there-is-this-for-real.html#comment-85456 joe Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:41:20 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/any-dutch-readers-out-there-is-this-for-real.html#comment-85456 Yup. Basic soccer 101 (unless your coaches are American) is that you spread the field as wide as you can on offense and you compress the field as much as possible on defense... However, since another favorite tactic of U.S. coaching is to PUT THE BALL INTO THE CORNER AT ALL COSTS TO ATTEMPT A CROSS (on offense), it comes as no surprise that defending wide would be their counter-action to that... Watch any MLS game--90% of attacking play comes from crosses; watch European football and you'll see much more combination play and through balls. Yup. Basic soccer 101 (unless your coaches are American) is that you spread the field as wide as you can on offense and you compress the field as much as possible on defense… However, since another favorite tactic of U.S. coaching is to PUT THE BALL INTO THE CORNER AT ALL COSTS TO ATTEMPT A CROSS (on offense), it comes as no surprise that defending wide would be their counter-action to that… Watch any MLS game–90% of attacking play comes from crosses; watch European football and you’ll see much more combination play and through balls.

]]> By: jz http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/any-dutch-readers-out-there-is-this-for-real.html#comment-85453 jz Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:32:25 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/any-dutch-readers-out-there-is-this-for-real.html#comment-85453 I wish I had a better idea exactly what tactic they were trying to teach. I was always told to push the channel the attacker outside--but that is at a lower skill level where there is almost zero chance that an accurate cross will be driven in and even less chance for an accurate header. I'm sure that the outside areas become more important as the skill of the players increases, but it is certainly a less dangerous area than straight in front of goal. I wish I had a better idea exactly what tactic they were trying to teach. I was always told to push the channel the attacker outside–but that is at a lower skill level where there is almost zero chance that an accurate cross will be driven in and even less chance for an accurate header.

I’m sure that the outside areas become more important as the skill of the players increases, but it is certainly a less dangerous area than straight in front of goal.

]]> By: Corey http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/any-dutch-readers-out-there-is-this-for-real.html#comment-85438 Corey Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:00:16 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/any-dutch-readers-out-there-is-this-for-real.html#comment-85438 Thats is the truth, I have been told that my whole football career. The idea of covering every inch of the pitch when defending is retarded. When I played ODP and on my highschool team, my coaches wanted me to cover the oppossing teams outside mid, and I was an outside mid! It meant the outside back behind me had no one to cover, but he stayed wide when we were defending anyways! How retarded is that, either I mark the opposing play and he moves inside a bit to support the middle or I dont mark him and move in a defensive posture inside the midfield and he takes the oppossing winger. Its so simple, I hated it that I knew more then my coaches. Thats is the truth, I have been told that my whole football career. The idea of covering every inch of the pitch when defending is retarded. When I played ODP and on my highschool team, my coaches wanted me to cover the oppossing teams outside mid, and I was an outside mid! It meant the outside back behind me had no one to cover, but he stayed wide when we were defending anyways! How retarded is that, either I mark the opposing play and he moves inside a bit to support the middle or I dont mark him and move in a defensive posture inside the midfield and he takes the oppossing winger. Its so simple, I hated it that I knew more then my coaches.

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