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	<title>Comments on: Eastern European Hooliganism Takes A Life</title>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/eastern-european-hooliganism-takes-a-life.html/comment-page-1#comment-150254</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 02:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R.I.P. Brice. My condolences go out to his familly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R.I.P. Brice. My condolences go out to his familly.</p>
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		<title>By: Serbian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serbian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man i feel sorry for this guy. This just shouldnt happen. But i think people should know not to wear this shirts or other marks of the opposition club in the center of Belgrade. It just isn&#039;t safe, never was. If u seat in caffe in Partizans shirt u can easily finish like this poor guy. Lots of hooligans in this city and banning wouldnt help at all, it can be even worse. Im affraid nothing can help, coz this is all about mentality. Just look at the stadiums in first league-they r empty. People cant even go to the stadiums coz they r affraid because in every game some shit happens. Fans should think twice when coming in Belgrade coz it JUST ISNT SAFE yet. Hope something will change in the future. R.I.P Brice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man i feel sorry for this guy. This just shouldnt happen. But i think people should know not to wear this shirts or other marks of the opposition club in the center of Belgrade. It just isn&#8217;t safe, never was. If u seat in caffe in Partizans shirt u can easily finish like this poor guy. Lots of hooligans in this city and banning wouldnt help at all, it can be even worse. Im affraid nothing can help, coz this is all about mentality. Just look at the stadiums in first league-they r empty. People cant even go to the stadiums coz they r affraid because in every game some shit happens. Fans should think twice when coming in Belgrade coz it JUST ISNT SAFE yet. Hope something will change in the future. R.I.P Brice</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When we make a world where people are desperate out of lack of jobs, lack of money, etc. people are going to take out their aggressions. By the way- the hoppers are a sony commercial. I somehow doubt sony is going to save the world. Their parts being build by Chinese children likely kill as well. The problem is depression, poverty and angst. Footy is only a concentration. We must look beyond sport for this to stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we make a world where people are desperate out of lack of jobs, lack of money, etc. people are going to take out their aggressions. By the way- the hoppers are a sony commercial. I somehow doubt sony is going to save the world. Their parts being build by Chinese children likely kill as well. The problem is depression, poverty and angst. Footy is only a concentration. We must look beyond sport for this to stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt watch the clip, one of the Partizan guys admits to raping a Croat because he &#039;blabbed his mouth&#039;
Yes the team probably should get punished but i dont think it will be enough for the situation to go away.
And why fine and destroy a club such a partizan which is producing such fine players such as Jovetic who would be the name on the tip of everyones tongues now.
The club cannot fix it, i dont think the league cannot even fix it, its a bigger issue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt watch the clip, one of the Partizan guys admits to raping a Croat because he &#8216;blabbed his mouth&#8217;<br />
Yes the team probably should get punished but i dont think it will be enough for the situation to go away.<br />
And why fine and destroy a club such a partizan which is producing such fine players such as Jovetic who would be the name on the tip of everyones tongues now.<br />
The club cannot fix it, i dont think the league cannot even fix it, its a bigger issue</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Club needs to be punished, agree 100% percent. European, transfer bans, the lot. I&#039;m not familiar with the Partizan situation, but I know at Red Star, the hoolie groups have more than a &#039;loose affiliation&#039; with the club. Its a much more concrete, formal relationship. I suspect its similar with Partizan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Club needs to be punished, agree 100% percent. European, transfer bans, the lot. I&#8217;m not familiar with the Partizan situation, but I know at Red Star, the hoolie groups have more than a &#8216;loose affiliation&#8217; with the club. Its a much more concrete, formal relationship. I suspect its similar with Partizan.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isnt a football problem its a social problem, in the Bulkan&#039;s there fucked in the head, i mean have you ever seen the real football factories?
watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GseDLqbycYU
Its the bit on the Grobi of Partizan, as they say the dont care where they fight, they even go to the basketball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isnt a football problem its a social problem, in the Bulkan&#8217;s there fucked in the head, i mean have you ever seen the real football factories?<br />
watch this <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GseDLqbycYU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GseDLqbycYU</a><br />
Its the bit on the Grobi of Partizan, as they say the dont care where they fight, they even go to the basketball.</p>
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		<title>By: FBL</title>
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		<dc:creator>FBL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a shame, RIP to Brice Taton. Just to add, in the last two years, there has been a lot of violence in Serbia from the right wing elements in Serbian society, the gay Pride parade was called off at the last moment because of violence. There were also Australian and British tourists at festivals beaten and stabbed.

Until the situation is resolved in the country itself, football will have these elements still in them. I do hope UEFA take a serious look at this, although it will be a big shame if the Serbian team was eliminated from the World Cup and Euro&#039;s, as they have a very good team.

Lets hope there is no violent retaliation against the fans responsible, it will never end if it does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a shame, RIP to Brice Taton. Just to add, in the last two years, there has been a lot of violence in Serbia from the right wing elements in Serbian society, the gay Pride parade was called off at the last moment because of violence. There were also Australian and British tourists at festivals beaten and stabbed.</p>
<p>Until the situation is resolved in the country itself, football will have these elements still in them. I do hope UEFA take a serious look at this, although it will be a big shame if the Serbian team was eliminated from the World Cup and Euro&#8217;s, as they have a very good team.</p>
<p>Lets hope there is no violent retaliation against the fans responsible, it will never end if it does.</p>
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		<title>By: Daryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m agree with Chris. There are too many people who take football - and football club allegiances - far too seriously.

It might be too late to change that, but clubs and authorities can definitely step up a little to make it clear that this type of thing can&#039;t be tolerated.

Banning Partizan Belgrade from European competition for a couple of seasons would be a good start, but I think Dan&#039;s right that it could only make hooligans dig their heels in. Maybe the best thing is if the pressure to behave properly came clearly and directly from the club itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m agree with Chris. There are too many people who take football &#8211; and football club allegiances &#8211; far too seriously.</p>
<p>It might be too late to change that, but clubs and authorities can definitely step up a little to make it clear that this type of thing can&#8217;t be tolerated.</p>
<p>Banning Partizan Belgrade from European competition for a couple of seasons would be a good start, but I think Dan&#8217;s right that it could only make hooligans dig their heels in. Maybe the best thing is if the pressure to behave properly came clearly and directly from the club itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about banning Serbian teams from all international competition for a period, as was done with English clubs in the late 80&#039;s?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about banning Serbian teams from all international competition for a period, as was done with English clubs in the late 80&#8217;s?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just posted something about this story myself.  It&#039;s depressing, ugly stuff.

It&#039;s clearly not the only step, but punishing the clubs is an important step.  In the context of football, the violence isn&#039;t just an individual action; it&#039;s done in the name of the club.  

It&#039;s not just punishment, it&#039;s a desperate attempt to prevent future violence.  If causing injury and/or death to another human doesn&#039;t move the hooligans, maybe the notion that they&#039;ll bring harm to the club they claim to love so much might deter them.  Of course, they might just as easily take this as evidence of a conspiracy against them and dig in their heels even more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just posted something about this story myself.  It&#8217;s depressing, ugly stuff.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s clearly not the only step, but punishing the clubs is an important step.  In the context of football, the violence isn&#8217;t just an individual action; it&#8217;s done in the name of the club.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just punishment, it&#8217;s a desperate attempt to prevent future violence.  If causing injury and/or death to another human doesn&#8217;t move the hooligans, maybe the notion that they&#8217;ll bring harm to the club they claim to love so much might deter them.  Of course, they might just as easily take this as evidence of a conspiracy against them and dig in their heels even more.</p>
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