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	<title>Comments on: French Will Have to Pay to See Ligue 1 Games on TV</title>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Whatever are you going to do when your beloved flounders play your beloved beckhams in a real live major league soccer match?&quot;

Stare at 60,000 empty seats along with the other couple dozen people in attendance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Whatever are you going to do when your beloved flounders play your beloved beckhams in a real live major league soccer match?&#8221;</p>
<p>Stare at 60,000 empty seats along with the other couple dozen people in attendance?</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since you put it that way Laurie, I guess I don&#039;t hate the sounders!

Whatever are you going to do when your beloved flounders play your beloved beckhams in a real live major league soccer match?

See you May 10th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you put it that way Laurie, I guess I don&#8217;t hate the sounders!</p>
<p>Whatever are you going to do when your beloved flounders play your beloved beckhams in a real live major league soccer match?</p>
<p>See you May 10th.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Real “hate” hatred is reserved for the seattle sounders.&lt;/em&gt;

You mean those Sounders who kicked your Timbers&#039; collective butts this year?  

Yeah, I hear an inferiority complex can create intense emotions.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Real “hate” hatred is reserved for the seattle sounders.</em></p>
<p>You mean those Sounders who kicked your Timbers&#8217; collective butts this year?  </p>
<p>Yeah, I hear an inferiority complex can create intense emotions.  <img src='http://www.theoffside.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@aja - I suppose I hate the bills more than the fans; I have one very lucid memory of walking through the parking lot at Joe Robbie after the Bills had beaten the Dolphins in the AFC Championship game (1989 or 90) and having hordes of grown men taunting me, a 14 year old kid.  And I&#039;m all &quot;boo hoo hoo.&quot;  Of course it&#039;s not real &quot;hate&quot; hatred, just, you know, sports hatred.  

Real &quot;hate&quot; hatred is reserved for the seattle sounders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@aja &#8211; I suppose I hate the bills more than the fans; I have one very lucid memory of walking through the parking lot at Joe Robbie after the Bills had beaten the Dolphins in the AFC Championship game (1989 or 90) and having hordes of grown men taunting me, a 14 year old kid.  And I&#8217;m all &#8220;boo hoo hoo.&#8221;  Of course it&#8217;s not real &#8220;hate&#8221; hatred, just, you know, sports hatred.  </p>
<p>Real &#8220;hate&#8221; hatred is reserved for the seattle sounders.</p>
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		<title>By: aja</title>
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		<dc:creator>aja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lucas, you&#039;re right, the comparison is not quite spot-on because of the sports&#039; popularity.  also, do you really you despise bills fans, or just love to hate them?  

corey, i&#039;m not sure if, overall, the blackouts drove more people to games, though i&#039;m pretty sure that was the reasoning.  but i&#039;m not sure it works quite that way.  and with this deal in france, i think it would end up alienating some fans who can&#039;t afford to buy tickets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lucas, you&#8217;re right, the comparison is not quite spot-on because of the sports&#8217; popularity.  also, do you really you despise bills fans, or just love to hate them?  </p>
<p>corey, i&#8217;m not sure if, overall, the blackouts drove more people to games, though i&#8217;m pretty sure that was the reasoning.  but i&#8217;m not sure it works quite that way.  and with this deal in france, i think it would end up alienating some fans who can&#8217;t afford to buy tickets.</p>
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		<title>By: Inara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone over at the BS forums was doing a comparison of L1 and MLS ticket prices and came up with this table. Some teams are incomplete, but it&#039;s still an interesting look. 

L1: http://home.comcast.net/%7Erkane1226/ligue1.jpg
MLS: http://home.comcast.net/%7Erkane1226/mls2.jpg

Watching games in France are obviously gonna be more expensive, but the bigger the team, the pricier it gets. So it&#039;s pretty expensive to bring your family to a game when you have to pay like $50-60 a head. 

Laurie also mentioned in an earlier post that most people attending the games are men, so I&#039;m guessing most women and kids who follow football in France watch it from their home. Given that Canal+ has only penetrated 40% of the market, that&#039;s a lot of people who can&#039;t even watch highlights. 

It&#039;s not much of a change than what it is now, but I was hoping that with the TV rights split, the free chains could have picked up one or two lots, which certainly would have been affordable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone over at the BS forums was doing a comparison of L1 and MLS ticket prices and came up with this table. Some teams are incomplete, but it&#8217;s still an interesting look. </p>
<p>L1: <a href="http://home.comcast.net/%7Erkane1226/ligue1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://home.comcast.net/%7Erkane1226/ligue1.jpg</a><br />
MLS: <a href="http://home.comcast.net/%7Erkane1226/mls2.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://home.comcast.net/%7Erkane1226/mls2.jpg</a></p>
<p>Watching games in France are obviously gonna be more expensive, but the bigger the team, the pricier it gets. So it&#8217;s pretty expensive to bring your family to a game when you have to pay like $50-60 a head. </p>
<p>Laurie also mentioned in an earlier post that most people attending the games are men, so I&#8217;m guessing most women and kids who follow football in France watch it from their home. Given that Canal+ has only penetrated 40% of the market, that&#8217;s a lot of people who can&#8217;t even watch highlights. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not much of a change than what it is now, but I was hoping that with the TV rights split, the free chains could have picked up one or two lots, which certainly would have been affordable.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corey: I don&#039;t think that the absence of a Ligue 1 highlight show will drive fans to the stadium. Full matches had only been on Canal+  before I think. But what about winning new fans?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corey: I don&#8217;t think that the absence of a Ligue 1 highlight show will drive fans to the stadium. Full matches had only been on Canal+  before I think. But what about winning new fans?</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aja, another Bills fan on the site! Awesome. I to remember the blackout rule, I missed quite a few games even in Binghamton. It was a sad ruling.

But Ligue 1 needs money, and without free television showing, doesnt that drive fans to the staidum?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aja, another Bills fan on the site! Awesome. I to remember the blackout rule, I missed quite a few games even in Binghamton. It was a sad ruling.</p>
<p>But Ligue 1 needs money, and without free television showing, doesnt that drive fans to the staidum?</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@aja - I didn&#039;t think about the blackout rule.  I was also pissed as a kid when Dolphins games weren&#039;t shown (though we went to plenty of games, and I continue to despise bills fans).  I still don&#039;t think it&#039;s a wholly fair comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@aja &#8211; I didn&#8217;t think about the blackout rule.  I was also pissed as a kid when Dolphins games weren&#8217;t shown (though we went to plenty of games, and I continue to despise bills fans).  I still don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a wholly fair comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comparison to the US is empty.  Soccer in the US is the 7th or 8th most popular sport, maybe; thus TV availability is naturally limited (and ESPN2 is hardly a luxury package).  US football, the #1 most popular sport by a long shot (as I assume Ligue 1 is most popular in France), is deeply entrenched on (free) network TV.

I think a more apt comparison is EPL television rights in England, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comparison to the US is empty.  Soccer in the US is the 7th or 8th most popular sport, maybe; thus TV availability is naturally limited (and ESPN2 is hardly a luxury package).  US football, the #1 most popular sport by a long shot (as I assume Ligue 1 is most popular in France), is deeply entrenched on (free) network TV.</p>
<p>I think a more apt comparison is EPL television rights in England, no?</p>
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