Comments on: MLS and the Copa Libertadores Question http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/mls-and-the-copa-libertadores-question.html League Football, Soccer News and Views from Around the World Mon, 13 Feb 2012 08:57:06 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: bluemeanies http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/mls-and-the-copa-libertadores-question.html/comment-page-1#comment-123400 bluemeanies Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:45:22 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/mls-and-the-copa-libertadores-question.html#comment-123400 That earlier comment regarding the Libertadores and non-Mexican Saprissa should have been Sudamericana. That earlier comment regarding the Libertadores and non-Mexican Saprissa should have been Sudamericana.

]]> By: Christian http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/mls-and-the-copa-libertadores-question.html/comment-page-1#comment-123222 Christian Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:59:04 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/mls-and-the-copa-libertadores-question.html#comment-123222 The Barclay's Premier League is the "official" name of the Premiership. As for the 39th game, it was scrapped...for now. Again, the almighty dollar (or euro as the current case is), will always get the final word. Expect to hear about it again. The Barclay’s Premier League is the “official” name of the Premiership. As for the 39th game, it was scrapped…for now. Again, the almighty dollar (or euro as the current case is), will always get the final word. Expect to hear about it again.

]]> By: hoyland54 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/mls-and-the-copa-libertadores-question.html/comment-page-1#comment-123203 hoyland54 Tue, 15 Apr 2008 00:08:31 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/mls-and-the-copa-libertadores-question.html#comment-123203 Two comments. First, what's the BPL? Was that meant to be EPL? Also, I think the 39th game plan was scrapped, at least for now. Or, at the very least, they've been so thoroughly warned off it that they're keeping the preparations quiet. Two comments. First, what’s the BPL? Was that meant to be EPL? Also, I think the 39th game plan was scrapped, at least for now. Or, at the very least, they’ve been so thoroughly warned off it that they’re keeping the preparations quiet.

]]> By: Mauro http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/mls-and-the-copa-libertadores-question.html/comment-page-1#comment-123157 Mauro Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:10:28 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/mls-and-the-copa-libertadores-question.html#comment-123157 Also, there is a mistake on a prior comment about how the CONCACAF teams qualified for the Libertadores. Apparently, Chivas qualified for winning the 2006/2007 Apertura, CF America are in because they were Interliga champs this year and Atlas got in for being runners up. I'm not sure if the rules have changed for this next edition to include the winner of the CONCACAF champs cup or not but for this year's edition, there is no place for the Champs Cup winner. Check here for more info. http://www.conmebol.com/comunicados_ver.jsp?id=61654&slangab=S Also, there is a mistake on a prior comment about how the CONCACAF teams qualified for the Libertadores. Apparently, Chivas qualified for winning the 2006/2007 Apertura, CF America are in because they were Interliga champs this year and Atlas got in for being runners up. I’m not sure if the rules have changed for this next edition to include the winner of the CONCACAF champs cup or not but for this year’s edition, there is no place for the Champs Cup winner.

Check here for more info.
http://www.conmebol.com/comunicados_ver.jsp?id=61654&slangab=S

]]> By: Mauro http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/mls-and-the-copa-libertadores-question.html/comment-page-1#comment-123149 Mauro Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:37:39 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/mls-and-the-copa-libertadores-question.html#comment-123149 No, MLS does not DESERVE it. Can they do something about this? Yes, but some changes need to be made in order to participate in those types of competitions. The main change would be to play alongside league schedules from around the world. Once that happens it's easier to slip into those tournaments. But the bottom line remains that the powers that be, need to want it. Once that happens, then maybe the MLS teams might have a chance. Also, once they've decided that tournament will make them money, their best bet is to head to Bolivia, or maybe Venezuela will be up for it again, and make a deal with them where the MLS will invest money into the local league and the Bolivians will allow the MLS teams to stage playoff matches for the country's alloted Libertadores spaces. That's the only way I see it happening, they will not get invited outright as leagues much older and more storied than MLS in central America are not involved or invited. No, MLS does not DESERVE it. Can they do something about this? Yes, but some changes need to be made in order to participate in those types of competitions. The main change would be to play alongside league schedules from around the world. Once that happens it’s easier to slip into those tournaments. But the bottom line remains that the powers that be, need to want it. Once that happens, then maybe the MLS teams might have a chance. Also, once they’ve decided that tournament will make them money, their best bet is to head to Bolivia, or maybe Venezuela will be up for it again, and make a deal with them where the MLS will invest money into the local league and the Bolivians will allow the MLS teams to stage playoff matches for the country’s alloted Libertadores spaces. That’s the only way I see it happening, they will not get invited outright as leagues much older and more storied than MLS in central America are not involved or invited.

]]> By: Ana http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/mls-and-the-copa-libertadores-question.html/comment-page-1#comment-123146 Ana Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:33:58 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/mls-and-the-copa-libertadores-question.html#comment-123146 They do not deserve it. The level is far from those clubs playing at Copa Libertatdores. What people value on the MLS (speed and hussle) is different than what the world values in football (skill and good football). I am not sure the MLS will ever reach that point. They do not deserve it. The level is far from those clubs playing at Copa Libertatdores.

What people value on the MLS (speed and hussle) is different than what the world values in football (skill and good football).

I am not sure the MLS will ever reach that point.

]]> By: NumeroDos http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/mls-and-the-copa-libertadores-question.html/comment-page-1#comment-123047 NumeroDos Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:49:34 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/mls-and-the-copa-libertadores-question.html#comment-123047 From what I've read about this subject, its not entirely just the MLS trying to get involved; CONEMBOL wants to make the Libertadores a continent wide competition (as in both North and South America). That part of the reason why Mexico is involved in the first place. While I don't think the MLS is at the point where it can compete in the competition, but I'm all for a single champions league in North and South America as long as it is done right (at least as far as the traveling is concerned). From what I’ve read about this subject, its not entirely just the MLS trying to get involved; CONEMBOL wants to make the Libertadores a continent wide competition (as in both North and South America). That part of the reason why Mexico is involved in the first place. While I don’t think the MLS is at the point where it can compete in the competition, but I’m all for a single champions league in North and South America as long as it is done right (at least as far as the traveling is concerned).

]]> By: bluemeanies http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/mls-and-the-copa-libertadores-question.html/comment-page-1#comment-123035 bluemeanies Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:40:32 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/mls-and-the-copa-libertadores-question.html#comment-123035 Well, can we bribe Venezuala to give their CONMEBOL spots to us and than when the rest of the confederation thinks its wrong that one country in the confederation has no spots while a country outside the confederation has spots decided to give both spots in the end because of the yummy television revenue from the outside of confederation league? I mean that is how MEXICO deserve to be there so can't we duplicate it. If we have enough money to throw around it might work. Either that or bribe Mexico to merge Interliga and Superliga (I cannot count how many times commenters and columnists already do this so in short - Interliga- a Mexican post-season tournament played in the US to get money from La Migra that determines the Libertadores spots; Superliga- a US vs Mexico challenge tournament played in the US to get money from La Migra that gives the winner a shiny trophy and some $$; please do not in future say Interliga when you mean Superliga or vice-versa). Mexican clubs do bitch about fixture congestion so enough money might do it there. Also, no Libertadores for MLS this year. Conmebol has historically let in two Mexican teams and the best non Mexico finisher in the Champions Cup. This year the spot is Saprissa's if the Champions league doesn't prevent most Concacaf competition in Conmebol tournaments. Well, can we bribe Venezuala to give their CONMEBOL spots to us and than when the rest of the confederation thinks its wrong that one country in the confederation has no spots while a country outside the confederation has spots decided to give both spots in the end because of the yummy television revenue from the outside of confederation league? I mean that is how MEXICO deserve to be there so can’t we duplicate it. If we have enough money to throw around it might work.

Either that or bribe Mexico to merge Interliga and Superliga (I cannot count how many times commenters and columnists already do this so in short – Interliga- a Mexican post-season tournament played in the US to get money from La Migra that determines the Libertadores spots; Superliga- a US vs Mexico challenge tournament played in the US to get money from La Migra that gives the winner a shiny trophy and some $$; please do not in future say Interliga when you mean Superliga or vice-versa). Mexican clubs do bitch about fixture congestion so enough money might do it there.

Also, no Libertadores for MLS this year. Conmebol has historically let in two Mexican teams and the best non Mexico finisher in the Champions Cup. This year the spot is Saprissa’s if the Champions league doesn’t prevent most Concacaf competition in Conmebol tournaments.

]]> By: Albert http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/mls-and-the-copa-libertadores-question.html/comment-page-1#comment-123024 Albert Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:08:18 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/mls-and-the-copa-libertadores-question.html#comment-123024 I think they need to get their schedule changed to coincide with the rest of the world first. Since sometimes i see yard lines on their soccer pitch, I assume the American Football affects this change? I think they need to get their schedule changed to coincide with the rest of the world first. Since sometimes i see yard lines on their soccer pitch, I assume the American Football affects this change?

]]> By: Ian Rose http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/mls-and-the-copa-libertadores-question.html/comment-page-1#comment-122912 Ian Rose Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:18:29 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/mls-and-the-copa-libertadores-question.html#comment-122912 Yeah, I don't think there's much of an argument for the MLS deserving a shot outside of their confederation until they do something within it. Yeah, I don’t think there’s much of an argument for the MLS deserving a shot outside of their confederation until they do something within it.

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