

MLS Expansion Dreams
By: Daryl | June 3rd, 2007
With talent like David Beckham, Juan Pablo Angel and er, Khano Smith, Major League Soccer is genuinely getting better every year. As well as the Designated Player rule, there’s some nice homegrown talent sprouting up. Freddy Adu might still come good (or not, we’ll see) and Jozy Altidore is blazing his own teenage superstar trail just in case.
As well as the standard of player slowly but surely improving, the number of teams is growing. Real Salt Lake, Chivas USA and Toronto FC are the most recent additions to the fold, and they’re (more or less) holding their own. The more teams there are, the less of a joke the playoff system becomes, so eventually teams will need to have above average seasons to qualify for the post season. And more teams means more potential fans as the good word about the game is spread farther and wider across North America.
The plan is to have 16 MLS teams by 2010, which means three more teams. So who’s next for an MLS franchise?
What follows is pretty brief, and from someone with a borderline simpleton understanding of how business works (two weeks of Economics before dropping out of the course.)
There’s a plenty chatter about the return of the San Jose Earthquakes with Lew Wolff and John Fisher apparently talking to Don Garber about a Son Jose MLS team by 2008. The stumbling block seems to be negotiations about a soccer specific stadium that was part of the original agreement but which Garber may be prepared to overlook in order to balance out the MLS schedule (which is lopsided with 13 teams) as soon as possible. That would make three teams in California, good for the soccer loving state and good for a three-way instate rivalry but maybe a little unfair on other soccer deprived areas.
A group in Las Vegas are pretty serious too. Las Vegas Sports & Entertainment Group has hired Paul Caligiuri as their spokesman and sent MLS a proposal that includes a $500 million retractable-roof stadium, an adjacent hotel and casino, practice fields and other amenities on 200 acres. Seems MLS is sort of interested but typically non-committal. Even with only two weeks of economics study under my belt I see a lot of advantages to a Vegas franchise. There’s a growing population, it would be the only pro sports franchise in town, it would be an attractive destination for away fans looking to make a weekend of it and presumably punters would be able to bet on the games. The only problem? It’s in the middle of the desert.
The Pacific North-West deserves a team, no? Michael and James Keston apparently hold exclusive rights to an MLS franchise in Seattle or Portland. The previously touted Qwest Field now looks an unlikely home for a Seattle team though. It’s just too damn big and MLS won’t want to repeat the current crowd lost in a stadium situation that exists with New York Red Bulls and Giants Stadium. More likely the Kestons will have to build something new, though they’re also talking about PG&E Park in Portland or maybe converting the suburban Hillsboro stadium into something suitable. The interesting aspect is that both cities currently have relatively thriving USL 1 teams, the Seattle Sounders and the Portland Timbers. Though we’ll apparently be seeing USL/MLS promotion/relegation “not in ourlifetime” there’s a case to be argued for granting MLS franchises to established USL teams if the requisite financial and logistical jiggery pokery can be achieved. The benefits are an established tradition and fan base, plus soccer fans won’t be forced to choose between two pro teams. Also, Don Garber doesn’t know this but I plan on living a very long time, so we’ll see.
How about more teams in Canada? The Toronto FC experience has been mostly positive (Alecko Eskandarian’s brief visit aside) and suggests there’s room for another Canadian franchise in MLS. Vancouver Whitecaps and Montreal Impact are two of USL’s better teams, and as with the Portland and Seattle teams, could conceivably make the jump to MLS.
Elsewhere, Atlanta, Philadelphia and Cleveland are all big cities that could surely produce a fan base, if an ownership group could put something together. Another New York City team would be great to get a nice little rivalry going with the moneybags Red Bulls, or even the occasionally discussed Rochester, NY expansion team (though I’d recommend dropping the “Raging Rhinos” name that afflicts the USL team.) Florida surely needs an MLS team. Tampa Bay and Miami both folded but may be worth another pop. St. Louis, Phoenix, Milwaukee, Minneapolis and Detroit have also been mentioned.
Or maybe MLS will do something unexpected. With American owners all over the Premiership like a rash how about an MLS offshoot of an English club, similar to Crystal Palace Baltimore in USL 2? Maybe there’ll be a huge televised American Idol style play-off where eight potential teams will play each other for the right to earn a franchise while Simon Cowell makes snide comments.
Whatever happens, three more teams will join the lucky 13 by 2010 and countless other potential teams will be disappointed and Major League Soccer-less. Who would you most like to see in the league?
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Real Salt Lake, Chivas USA and Toronto FC are the most recent additions to the fold, and BOTH are more or less holding their own.
Cheeky … Hey, we proved once again this week that while we are completely unable to win a match against anyone in the MLS, RSL can draw with anyone. Scoreless draws are our specialty.
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That was a typo, honest! No RSL offence intended.
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Montreal. Montreal. Montreal. Montreal. Seattle. Tampa/Miami/Atlanta.
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Pacific Northwest, please? Granted, I live here, but that’s a valid reason. I think a Seattle (preferable, as it’s the actual city I’m in), Portland, or Vancouver franchise would be an excellent idea. There’s a pretty thriving subculture up in these parts, and I’m jealous of my friends back home in Denver with their shiny new stadium…
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I agree, Abby, though if I had my way I’d “promote” the Timbers over the Sounders … either way, the Northwest is the best place for MLS.
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I think San Diego should be a no-brainer. The indoor Sockers had a long history down there, Hercules Gomez came from the D3 League San Diego Gauchos. U of San Diego has a top-flight D1 college program, as does SDSU (alma mater of Wynalda and Balboa). Plus, the cross border traffic from Mexico would certainly fill the stands, as it does everytime Mexico plays down there.
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Don’t forget RSL’s inexplicable 3-3 draw with Red Bull NY this season.
Ideally, Montreal and Vancouver should get teams and I think St. Louis would make a darn good candidate in the US. Great soccer history in the USA and a natural rivalry with KC.
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I’m an Atlantan, and we’re not ready for an MLS franchise. Let the Silverbacks develop a following and the stadium get completed all of its phases, and then maybe…
I think the Sons of Ben need a team in Philly.
http://www.leaguelineup.com/welcome.asp?url=sonsofben
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Well, Seattle is clearly more awesome than Portland (unless you’re from Portland and living here for whatever reason, because then everything is better in Portland), but Portland does seem to support their USL team quite heavily, so I suppose they deserve it.
Now, giving both Seattle and Portland teams, with possibly Vancouver as well, and you’ve got an excellent derby.
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Tim’s right about STL — as strange as it is to say this about an American city, the place is soccer crazy, and has a great history in the sport. People there get it. That, however, might make MLS wary, b/c STL fans aren’t suckers and will likely demand quality from the beginning. That said, discussions got pretty far this winter, and it’s likely a matter of not if, but when.
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Rochester needs a team, its a good market for one, with Buffalo, Syracuse, Binghamton and Albany all within close proximity, and fans from Canada not to far either. The upstate region of NY is very soccer and lacrosse pasionate, and the Rhinos are a solid franchise, with extensive scouting and youth team setup that sprawls most of New Tork, Canada and PA, as well as a decent USL team with good attendence. Come on Garber, is Columbus can have a team, Roch can too.
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Montreal or Vancouver, portland and Vegas. Plus, RSL will have to move to survive if they don’t get their stadium deal, and they should go to Seattle.
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Let’s not get greedy, Abby. I’d love to see two or three northwest teams as well, but that kind of depth is why we have USL 1. Ideally, I would put one in the Pac NW, one more in Canada and then make the Rochester Raging Rhinos an MLS team – you’ve got to respect the name, plus the fact that they’re the only non-MLS team to win the US Open Cup since the start of MLS. We’ll see.
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I’d like to see the return of the Metrostars, but I think the NYRB need to gain more crowd support first, if another team is introduced in the NY Metro area fans will have to choose which could lower attendance in both stadiums.. and then both teams could fold.
Seattle/Portland is a must, I second the SanDiego team, and I definitely think within the next 20 years, the USL should either join or become the second league for the MLS to allow for relegation and promotion. Make the players work hard to stay in the top
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I’m just saying, it would be awesome. Not that I expect it to happen…
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For the Western Conference, I’m predicting a return of the MLS to San Jose (if not, San Diego), along with a Northwest expansion team (Portland/Vancouver). For the Eastern Conference, I’m predicting an expansion team in Atlanta, St. Louis or Philadelphia.
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Most definately Canada ! I think football is bigger Per Capita in Canada rather than the USA,Nooffence yanks but in the 60’s,70s and 80’s get spanked by your Canadian neighbours.Montreal and Vancouver are more Multicultural than Portland,sandiego by a long way.Seattle deserves a team but Portland? A bit small. Montreal is a Euro-French Canadian city and is 3.5 Million with so much European Culture ta boot.The Vancouver Whitecaps and MontrealImpact have beenthe 2 best teams in the USL for the past 4 years.Portland,San Diego who! Place 2 teams in Canada it’s a no brainer lads.Just look at the attendance and atmosphere at Toronto FC games and compare it to most US teams.Big difference,peace in da middle east
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Sorry Corey, but i dont think you can even compare roch. to columbus. roch. is probably about 1/3 the size of columbus. i think roch has a good fan with the rhinos from what ive seen, but it is way too small of a market for a league needing to expand a fan base. The league would be taking a step backward if that happened. I think the MLS needs Philadelphia, St. Louis, Minneapolis, and perhaps one out west with portland or seattle. Another canadian team would be great too!
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It would easy to expand in Canada. Vancouver, Montreal and Hamilton would make 3 great city additions to MLS.
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Rumors seem to rain from the sky when the subject of MLS expansion arises, so why not throw in my two cents. First I think that by 2010 we will definetly see the return of the SJ Earthquakes. SJ might even have a team by next year from what I’ve read. The other two teams to enter the league in 2010 are much harder to figure out. MLS is looking for large cities who are going to have soccer specific stadiums in place. I am still completely baffled on how Salt Lake ever got a team. I think putting another team in NY is a great idea. The Mets ownership have apparently expressed interest in putting up the dough for an expansion team. Putting the team next to the new Citi Field would be a superb move. I feel like the other expansion team will go to the Pacific NW. The most likely city is Seattle, but there are strong arguments for both Portland and Vancouver. The fan support in Toronto has been terrific so I would imagine MLS will seriously consider future bids out of Canada.
On a side topic I saw that someone metioned applying the promo/rel. system to the US soccer pyramid. As a fan of the international game I love the idea. As a realist I don’t ever think it will happen. The economics of american sports make it incredible expensive to compete at a high level. The added cost would bankrupt many USL-1 clubs and it would be extremely hard for lower level MLS clubs to remain viable clubs if they were relegated. Soccer is still a niche sport in America, getting new owners to invest there millions when there is a possibility that there team will become completely marginalized within a season or two is an impossible sell for the league. The economics of staying competative would mean that few teams (LA, DC, NY, CHI) would be able to afford the talent to play with any sort of consistency. Not to mention how the single entity structure of the league would play out with all of this. Love the promo/rel system, but it’ll never happen stateside.
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MLS is going to expand to 16 teams by 2010. Two in the west and one in the east to balance it up. Toronto FC was a huge success and the MLS is going to most likely add another team to canada by 2010. If they add vancouver they should add Seattle or Portland to have a rival. If they don’t add Vancouver then a team will still propably go to Portland or Seattle but not both by 2010. The other team in the west would probably go back to san jose or go to las vegas. Montreal is a favorite for the eastern expansion and they would have a rivalry with toronto fc. Montreal or Vancouver will get a team for sure by 2010.
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HARTFORD, CT
* connecticut is in desperate need of adding a professional sports team
*the city of Hartford is on the rise
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Detroit!!! Huge multi-cultural population. The sport is big here and I miss my DC United. Please bring a team to michigan!!!!!!
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Hello all! I’m a Toronto FC season ticket holder and while I’m still new to soccer in North America, I think I’ve got a pretty good idea what future MLS teams would be successful or not.
Personally, I don’t see a club being viable in Las Vegas. there has only ever been one pro sports club in the Las Vegas area and it was a CFL franchise that lasted only one season. Las Vegas’ marketable population is too transient to generate enough interest, and I just don’t envision a lot of people showing interest in a region that’s so heavily dominated by NCAA sports.
San Jose could work very well for the league ans apparently the only reason for the club moving away in the first place was due to a lack of a soccer-specific stadium. I’ve been told the city is going to pony-up the cash for new facilities, so it looks like the club should be a success this time around.
As for Vancouver and Montreal, while I would LOVE to see more Canadian teams in the MLS, Toronto is having a hard enough time at the moment adjusting it’s roster to accommodate for the mandatory Canadian players. Having more Canadian teams would put that much more stress on the domestic talent pool. The best course of action in my opinion would be to lower the minimum number of Canadian players.
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DEFINITELY NEED A MIAMI TEAM TO COME BACK AGAIN!!!
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