Comments on: Photo of the Day: Racism in Lithuania http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/photo-of-the-day-racism-in-lithuania.html League Football, Soccer News and Views from Around the World Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:29:37 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: -a http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/photo-of-the-day-racism-in-lithuania.html#comment-102234 -a Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:21:46 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/photo-of-the-day-racism-in-lithuania.html#comment-102234 Late in chiming in, but I'm in agreement with old apple and Jon. Late in chiming in, but I’m in agreement with old apple and Jon.

]]> By: Laurie http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/photo-of-the-day-racism-in-lithuania.html#comment-101925 Laurie Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:54:45 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/photo-of-the-day-racism-in-lithuania.html#comment-101925 What's funny is that this conversation is quite tame and calm and reasoned relative to what I get on my France page on the same topic. What’s funny is that this conversation is quite tame and calm and reasoned relative to what I get on my France page on the same topic.

]]> By: Laurie http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/photo-of-the-day-racism-in-lithuania.html#comment-101922 Laurie Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:37:18 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/photo-of-the-day-racism-in-lithuania.html#comment-101922 Dammit, Jan, you beat me to it. Dammit, Jan, you beat me to it.

]]> By: Laurie http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/photo-of-the-day-racism-in-lithuania.html#comment-101921 Laurie Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:37:00 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/photo-of-the-day-racism-in-lithuania.html#comment-101921 Yea! Godwin's Law DOES work!! My faith in humanity is restored. Yea! Godwin’s Law DOES work!! My faith in humanity is restored.

]]> By: Jan http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/photo-of-the-day-racism-in-lithuania.html#comment-101919 Jan Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:35:29 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/photo-of-the-day-racism-in-lithuania.html#comment-101919 Lucas: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law" rel="nofollow">Godwin's Law</a> doesn't seem to apply to The Offside. This is a special place.:-) Lucas: Godwin’s Law doesn’t seem to apply to The Offside. This is a special place.:-)

]]> By: Jon http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/photo-of-the-day-racism-in-lithuania.html#comment-101915 Jon Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:26:11 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/photo-of-the-day-racism-in-lithuania.html#comment-101915 For the love of sanity, people. Nationalist borders and barriers suck. Go open a beer and watch Bill Hicks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W27wBf7Jw34 And Laurie = Hitler. (Kidding, of course, but Lucas is right... this conversation is beyond ridiculous at this point.) The end. For the love of sanity, people.

Nationalist borders and barriers suck. Go open a beer and watch Bill Hicks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W27wBf7Jw34

And Laurie = Hitler. (Kidding, of course, but Lucas is right… this conversation is beyond ridiculous at this point.)

The end.

]]> By: Lucas http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/photo-of-the-day-racism-in-lithuania.html#comment-101912 Lucas Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:05:47 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/photo-of-the-day-racism-in-lithuania.html#comment-101912 Alright this cyber-conversation has gone on too long without someone cyber-comparing someone else to Hitler. Get on it! Alright this cyber-conversation has gone on too long without someone cyber-comparing someone else to Hitler. Get on it!

]]> By: Inara http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/photo-of-the-day-racism-in-lithuania.html#comment-101908 Inara Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:47:59 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/photo-of-the-day-racism-in-lithuania.html#comment-101908 Jon, I don't get how this is "No biggie dealio" when the Lithuanian banner was obviously meant to offend. It was picking at an issue that is a sensitive one for the players. Last year, a prominent politician (I forget who it was) basically said that he wanted to see more white players in France's lineup. That was very hurtful to the entire team, but most especially to the players that were attacked, basically questioning their right to wear the colors of France. Jon, I don’t get how this is “No biggie dealio” when the Lithuanian banner was obviously meant to offend. It was picking at an issue that is a sensitive one for the players. Last year, a prominent politician (I forget who it was) basically said that he wanted to see more white players in France’s lineup. That was very hurtful to the entire team, but most especially to the players that were attacked, basically questioning their right to wear the colors of France.

]]> By: Paul http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/photo-of-the-day-racism-in-lithuania.html#comment-101906 Paul Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:41:29 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/photo-of-the-day-racism-in-lithuania.html#comment-101906 For what its worth, I was just checking the recent French squads named for the friendlies with Spain and Congo and there are only three players born outside of France (Evra - Senegal, Makalele - Zaire(now Congo), Vieira - Senegal) in the full squad and there are two in the "A" squad (Mandanda - Zaire, Boumsong - Cameroon). However, I do agree that the banner didn't strike me as racist. I think its a popular misconception that most of the French team is from outside France. In fact, that is what I thought until I checked all of the current squad. A lot of the players are decscended from former French colonies, but they were born in France, as French citizens. I'm just guessing that those Lithuania fans don't realize that those players of African descent were actually born and raised in France. Who knows, I could be totally off base though... For what its worth, I was just checking the recent French squads named for the friendlies with Spain and Congo and there are only three players born outside of France (Evra – Senegal, Makalele – Zaire(now Congo), Vieira – Senegal) in the full squad and there are two in the “A” squad (Mandanda – Zaire, Boumsong – Cameroon).

However, I do agree that the banner didn’t strike me as racist. I think its a popular misconception that most of the French team is from outside France. In fact, that is what I thought until I checked all of the current squad. A lot of the players are decscended from former French colonies, but they were born in France, as French citizens. I’m just guessing that those Lithuania fans don’t realize that those players of African descent were actually born and raised in France.

Who knows, I could be totally off base though…

]]> By: Cerberus http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/photo-of-the-day-racism-in-lithuania.html#comment-101895 Cerberus Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:30:53 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/photo-of-the-day-racism-in-lithuania.html#comment-101895 No, Jan, I think he's absolutely got it spot on as do the rest of the racism-apologists. I find myself struck dumb and unable to respond to the awe-inspiring quality of their firm rebuttal wherein: 1) They ignore the fact that their main assertion that France somehow steals Africans and pretends they're Frenchmen (thus a legitimate complaint) is actually a lie they cling to despite actual evidence to the contrary. 2) That because I dared point out that America has a spotty history in respecting immigrants, I must somehow be Anti-American. 3) And that as the son of immigrants, I, like the French National Team must not be French, must not be American. On that note, I really should tell the Registrar about that, because that means I just voted illegally. Next to such awe-inspiring mastery, who are we mortals to complain or respond? Who are we to say that these pillars of the online community have not silenced us with their brilliance rather than willful and insulting ignorance? Not me, that's for sure. I only came here for the footy news and the wonderful community atmosphere. No, Jan, I think he’s absolutely got it spot on as do the rest of the racism-apologists.

I find myself struck dumb and unable to respond to the awe-inspiring quality of their firm rebuttal wherein:

1) They ignore the fact that their main assertion that France somehow steals Africans and pretends they’re Frenchmen (thus a legitimate complaint) is actually a lie they cling to despite actual evidence to the contrary.

2) That because I dared point out that America has a spotty history in respecting immigrants, I must somehow be Anti-American.

3) And that as the son of immigrants, I, like the French National Team must not be French, must not be American. On that note, I really should tell the Registrar about that, because that means I just voted illegally.

Next to such awe-inspiring mastery, who are we mortals to complain or respond? Who are we to say that these pillars of the online community have not silenced us with their brilliance rather than willful and insulting ignorance?

Not me, that’s for sure.

I only came here for the footy news and the wonderful community atmosphere.

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