Comments on: Quaresma Re-Ups with Porto http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/quaresma-re-ups-with-porto.html League Football, Soccer News and Views from Around the World Mon, 13 Feb 2012 08:57:06 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Martha http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/quaresma-re-ups-with-porto.html/comment-page-1#comment-97274 Martha Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:46:41 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/quaresma-re-ups-with-porto.html#comment-97274 Thanks, BC and Pedro, I was hoping you guys would comment on this. And yeah, I never meant to suggest that MLS and the Portuguese Liga are at the same level -- I'm glad you at least understand what I was getting at, Pedro, and I'm happy to hear you think I'm wrong. (I'm a huge Quaresma fan, and don't want to see him settling.) I can't believe he's regularly booed at Porto; if it's because the supporters expect perfection I suppose that's one thing, but if it's to do with perceived selfishness, that's nuts, considering how much better he makes the team. Again, thanks to both of you for your input! Thanks, BC and Pedro, I was hoping you guys would comment on this. And yeah, I never meant to suggest that MLS and the Portuguese Liga are at the same level — I’m glad you at least understand what I was getting at, Pedro, and I’m happy to hear you think I’m wrong. (I’m a huge Quaresma fan, and don’t want to see him settling.)

I can’t believe he’s regularly booed at Porto; if it’s because the supporters expect perfection I suppose that’s one thing, but if it’s to do with perceived selfishness, that’s nuts, considering how much better he makes the team.

Again, thanks to both of you for your input!

]]> By: Pedro http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/quaresma-re-ups-with-porto.html/comment-page-1#comment-97273 Pedro Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:40:54 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/quaresma-re-ups-with-porto.html#comment-97273 Quaresma mooved to Barca, more or less like Simao had done previously. I don't think a player that moves to a club like Barca at 20 would have ego issues about not starting every week. Anyway, he was in a way a star already, and everybody in Europe had seen it, specially in the matches Sporting CP played against Inter, the year befoer I think. I understad your metaphore, but moving from the german league to MLS isn't really the same than moving from one of the biggest and best clubs in the world to another top world class club. FCPorto took everything world wide. (I'm a Sporting fan, but fair is fair). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F.C._Porto#International_titles The way Quaresma stated that he'd never play again under Rijkaard might be arrogant, not so strategic, especially if you're so young, but it surelly shows no mental weakness. The fact he moved to FCP and upgraded a few notches, to the point of being the teams pillar today and arguably one of the best top 5 wingers in the world, has gotta show something. About the contract itself, I would't be surprised to see him move abroad, sooner or later. His market value is increasing by the day. The fact he has a contact renewed with FCP serves both parties. If he leaves, it won't be for Atl Madrid, that's for sure... In the meantime, staying with FCP (let's see how it goes against Schalke04) is always a better option, other than Inter, Milan, ManUtd, Arsenal, Real and Barca. And maybe one or two german teams, where he'll probably never move anyway... Other good examples we can find with FCPorto are Deco, Maniche, Bosingwa (now on the rise to became one of the top right-back/right-wing-back), were all players underestimated to some extent, that have shown their merit in the meantime. As far as I'm concerned, to get back to BC, Quaresma is booed by FCP fans just to spurr him. They bacame spoiled and expect him to just make the difference everytime, but they forget how bad the team plays without him (without him and Lucho and Tarik, the team looks like an ordinay B team). Quaresma mooved to Barca, more or less like Simao had done previously. I don’t think a player that moves to a club like Barca at 20 would have ego issues about not starting every week. Anyway, he was in a way a star already, and everybody in Europe had seen it, specially in the matches Sporting CP played against Inter, the year befoer I think.

I understad your metaphore, but moving from the german league to MLS isn’t really the same than moving from one of the biggest and best clubs in the world to another top world class club. FCPorto took everything world wide. (I’m a Sporting fan, but fair is fair).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F.C._Porto#International_titles

The way Quaresma stated that he’d never play again under Rijkaard might be arrogant, not so strategic, especially if you’re so young, but it surelly shows no mental weakness. The fact he moved to FCP and upgraded a few notches, to the point of being the teams pillar today and arguably one of the best top 5 wingers in the world, has gotta show something.

About the contract itself, I would’t be surprised to see him move abroad, sooner or later. His market value is increasing by the day. The fact he has a contact renewed with FCP serves both parties. If he leaves, it won’t be for Atl Madrid, that’s for sure… In the meantime, staying with FCP (let’s see how it goes against Schalke04) is always a better option, other than Inter, Milan, ManUtd, Arsenal, Real and Barca. And maybe one or two german teams, where he’ll probably never move anyway…

Other good examples we can find with FCPorto are Deco, Maniche, Bosingwa (now on the rise to became one of the top right-back/right-wing-back), were all players underestimated to some extent, that have shown their merit in the meantime.

As far as I’m concerned, to get back to BC, Quaresma is booed by FCP fans just to spurr him. They bacame spoiled and expect him to just make the difference everytime, but they forget how bad the team plays without him (without him and Lucho and Tarik, the team looks like an ordinay B team).

]]> By: BC http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/quaresma-re-ups-with-porto.html/comment-page-1#comment-97054 BC Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:31:15 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/quaresma-re-ups-with-porto.html#comment-97054 I did not know who the Landon Donovan, but keep in mind, that for portuguese at least, there is no comparison between the portuguese league and the american one. And Quaresma still has got a few nominations and lots of attention playing in Portugal. He is getting whistled at, booed by Porto fans in the Antas stadium for individualism I guess, even if right now he seems pretty effective. Wingers are a breed in extinction, that comes with the territory. And Ricardo Quaresma lets these things get to him. He even is answering a court case about hitting a fan in 2006. On the weekend he score after getting booed and did not celebrate it with fans, and he made a statement that soon fans will have no reason to whistle at him. Now lots of people took that to mean he will be leaving soon. Now he renewed contract and his comments were that he loves Porto, no mention of staying for very long. If he loves Porto renewing might make more money to the club. Something to watch next summer, specially with the euro coming up. I would not at all mind seeing him leaving Porto, but keep in mind, it would not necessarily be useful to Portugal or improve him as a player. Leaving can destroy selfconfidence, Helder Postiga got ruined that way and from my point of view Ricardo Quaresma mentally is not that tough as he could possibly be, he might be better as the big big fish in a medium pond than as the medium fish in the big wide ocean. Also players can get benched in favour of others of the same nationality or if they get injured, which is almost precisely the Barcelona story, and they are always further from the national team manager´s attention than if they were in one of the big three. I did not know who the Landon Donovan, but keep in mind, that for portuguese at least, there is no comparison between the portuguese league and the american one. And Quaresma still has got a few nominations and lots of attention playing in Portugal.

He is getting whistled at, booed by Porto fans in the Antas stadium for individualism I guess, even if right now he seems pretty effective. Wingers are a breed in extinction, that comes with the territory. And Ricardo Quaresma lets these things get to him. He even is answering a court case about hitting a fan in 2006. On the weekend he score after getting booed and did not celebrate it with fans, and he made a statement that soon fans will have no reason to whistle at him. Now lots of people took that to mean he will be leaving soon. Now he renewed contract and his comments were that he loves Porto, no mention of staying for very long. If he loves Porto renewing might make more money to the club. Something to watch next summer, specially with the euro coming up.

I would not at all mind seeing him leaving Porto, but keep in mind, it would not necessarily be useful to Portugal or improve him as a player. Leaving can destroy selfconfidence, Helder Postiga got ruined that way and from my point of view Ricardo Quaresma mentally is not that tough as he could possibly be, he might be better as the big big fish in a medium pond than as the medium fish in the big wide ocean. Also players can get benched in favour of others of the same nationality or if they get injured, which is almost precisely the Barcelona story, and they are always further from the national team manager´s attention than if they were in one of the big three.

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