Comments on: The Story Behind Arshavin’s “Slavery” http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/the-story-behind-arshavins-slavery.html League Football, Soccer News and Views from Around the World Sun, 29 Nov 2009 09:45:33 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: j http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/the-story-behind-arshavins-slavery.html#comment-132802 j Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:40:54 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/the-story-behind-arshavins-slavery.html#comment-132802 Spectre - I understand he was looking for a deal to rival Frank Lampard's. As far as the transfer, the sticking point were the terms more than the amount. If they make it a straight deal (no incentives) with payment within a year, it'll happen. Spectre – I understand he was looking for a deal to rival Frank Lampard’s. As far as the transfer, the sticking point were the terms more than the amount. If they make it a straight deal (no incentives) with payment within a year, it’ll happen.

]]> By: spectre http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/the-story-behind-arshavins-slavery.html#comment-132796 spectre Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:55:27 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/the-story-behind-arshavins-slavery.html#comment-132796 Sounds like the transfer fee from Zenit was high. Still no info on the salary demands from Arshavin. Would it be a surprise if those were never released? Sounds like the transfer fee from Zenit was high. Still no info on the salary demands from Arshavin. Would it be a surprise if those were never released?

]]> By: j http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/the-story-behind-arshavins-slavery.html#comment-132791 j Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:27:13 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/the-story-behind-arshavins-slavery.html#comment-132791 I mentioned this a few times however in a very brief summary, suitors weren't even close to the Zenit's valuation of £21.5m and they were trying to structure a deal where offers were heavy back-end loaded and laced with club and player incentives of payments stretching beyond the one-year norm. Basically clubs weren't even close to the asking price, wanted long payment terms on a price that wasn't firm. I mentioned this a few times however in a very brief summary, suitors weren’t even close to the Zenit’s valuation of £21.5m and they were trying to structure a deal where offers were heavy back-end loaded and laced with club and player incentives of payments stretching beyond the one-year norm. Basically clubs weren’t even close to the asking price, wanted long payment terms on a price that wasn’t firm.

]]> By: Blue Devil Brad http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/the-story-behind-arshavins-slavery.html#comment-132778 Blue Devil Brad Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:57:20 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/the-story-behind-arshavins-slavery.html#comment-132778 I like your skepticism, spectre. It's always important to get both sides of any story. From what I've read, it seems like both Arshavin and Zenit were looking to make bank after his amazing showing at EURO, and in the Spurs case they were ready to compensate Arshavin with the salary he wants but Zenit wasn't happy with the transfer fee. http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=826275 This is the only story I could find quoting a figure - Arsenal was ready with 15 million pounds. We don't know how much they were asking for, but we know 15 mil wasn't enough. For perspective, remember Robbie Keane just went from Tottenham Hotspur to Liverpool for 20.3 mil. I like your skepticism, spectre. It’s always important to get both sides of any story. From what I’ve read, it seems like both Arshavin and Zenit were looking to make bank after his amazing showing at EURO, and in the Spurs case they were ready to compensate Arshavin with the salary he wants but Zenit wasn’t happy with the transfer fee.

http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=826275
This is the only story I could find quoting a figure – Arsenal was ready with 15 million pounds. We don’t know how much they were asking for, but we know 15 mil wasn’t enough. For perspective, remember Robbie Keane just went from Tottenham Hotspur to Liverpool for 20.3 mil.

]]> By: spectre http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/the-story-behind-arshavins-slavery.html#comment-132774 spectre Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:46:36 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/the-story-behind-arshavins-slavery.html#comment-132774 Firstly, let me say that for Arshavin's agent to claim "slavery" was ridiculous and insulting to any of those who have been/are in reality, slaves. That having been said... Once again, I see a lot of writers throwing a player under the bus about being greedy. It's too easy. It's tired. A professional writer for a newspaper will never write that a club was too cheap (certainly if they're in the same country as the club), for fear of being blacklisted from the "free lunch" box. Many blog writers (because they lead wholly seperate lives in addition to their blogs) tend to take an amalgamation of opinions from various sources and cobble together their own opinion (as opposed to using inside sources) - leaving them spouting a line of thinking eerily similar to the company line the mainstream media totes. Usually their independence from media outlets allows them the freedom to differ, but on matters such as this (where most of the info is not made available to the general public), it is sadly not the case. I have yet to see a writer divulge what exacly Arshavin was asking for, and compare it to other players of similar stock. Without this important piece of info - exactly the amount he was asking for - all we're left with is what the powerbrokers (i.e. NOT the players) want us to believe. Now then, if someone can actually come up with the figures and the comparisons, and it's a patently absurd amount of money for a player who just recently shone brightly in a major tournament, I will be happy to admit that in this case I was wrong. All I'm asking for is thorough unbiased reporting. I love the offside, and greatly respect the work those involved do to satisfy the appetites of so many readers with so many different opinions. Given that the vast majority (or all) do so without pay, I have no room to complain about the job they do, and if this comes across as such, my apologies. I am not a Russia fan, an Arsenal fan, a Zenit fan, nor a Spurs fan. I'm not even an Arshavin fan. I simply want, in matters both worldy AND soccer, a fair hearing with all of the facts presented before judgement is passed. Firstly, let me say that for Arshavin’s agent to claim “slavery” was ridiculous and insulting to any of those who have been/are in reality, slaves.

That having been said…

Once again, I see a lot of writers throwing a player under the bus about being greedy. It’s too easy. It’s tired. A professional writer for a newspaper will never write that a club was too cheap (certainly if they’re in the same country as the club), for fear of being blacklisted from the “free lunch” box. Many blog writers (because they lead wholly seperate lives in addition to their blogs) tend to take an amalgamation of opinions from various sources and cobble together their own opinion (as opposed to using inside sources) – leaving them spouting a line of thinking eerily similar to the company line the mainstream media totes. Usually their independence from media outlets allows them the freedom to differ, but on matters such as this (where most of the info is not made available to the general public), it is sadly not the case.

I have yet to see a writer divulge what exacly Arshavin was asking for, and compare it to other players of similar stock. Without this important piece of info – exactly the amount he was asking for – all we’re left with is what the powerbrokers (i.e. NOT the players) want us to believe.

Now then, if someone can actually come up with the figures and the comparisons, and it’s a patently absurd amount of money for a player who just recently shone brightly in a major tournament, I will be happy to admit that in this case I was wrong. All I’m asking for is thorough unbiased reporting.

I love the offside, and greatly respect the work those involved do to satisfy the appetites of so many readers with so many different opinions. Given that the vast majority (or all) do so without pay, I have no room to complain about the job they do, and if this comes across as such, my apologies. I am not a Russia fan, an Arsenal fan, a Zenit fan, nor a Spurs fan. I’m not even an Arshavin fan. I simply want, in matters both worldy AND soccer, a fair hearing with all of the facts presented before judgement is passed.

]]> By: Michael http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/the-story-behind-arshavins-slavery.html#comment-132772 Michael Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:32:32 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/the-story-behind-arshavins-slavery.html#comment-132772 He just seems totally overrated. He just seems totally overrated.

]]> By: Ted http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/the-story-behind-arshavins-slavery.html#comment-132771 Ted Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:09:53 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/the-story-behind-arshavins-slavery.html#comment-132771 I could not care less about all this money stuff. I want to see him go to the Prem, or another big league. In spite of all this bluster he is a sublime player, and he is practically invisable playing in the Russian league. I want to see him play. I could not care less about all this money stuff. I want to see him go to the Prem, or another big league. In spite of all this bluster
he is a sublime player, and he is practically invisable playing in the
Russian league. I want to see him play.

]]> By: Erika http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/the-story-behind-arshavins-slavery.html#comment-132770 Erika Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:35:35 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/the-story-behind-arshavins-slavery.html#comment-132770 The LA Galaxy should buy him like Beckham! I think if the Galaxy offered a contract similar to Beckham's, Arshavin would feel "liberated" of his chains, for sure! The LA Galaxy should buy him like Beckham! I think if the Galaxy offered a contract similar to Beckham’s, Arshavin would feel “liberated” of his chains, for sure!

]]> By: steven http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/the-story-behind-arshavins-slavery.html#comment-132766 steven Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:39:17 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/the-story-behind-arshavins-slavery.html#comment-132766 I'm tired of all this "slave" talk. Those over-paid diva's need to get their butts down th where slavery DOES exist and have them work a day in theri lives. Then we'll see who the slave is. I’m tired of all this “slave” talk. Those over-paid diva’s need to get their butts down th where slavery DOES exist and have them work a day in theri lives. Then we’ll see who the slave is.

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