Comments on: Yoann Gourcuff Needs to Get the Hell Out of Milan http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/yoann-gourcuff-needs-to-get-the-hell-out-of-milan.html League Football, Soccer News and Views from Around the World Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:53:35 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Inara http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/yoann-gourcuff-needs-to-get-the-hell-out-of-milan.html#comment-86711 Inara Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:55:51 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/yoann-gourcuff-needs-to-get-the-hell-out-of-milan.html#comment-86711 Well, it's too late for Gourcuff to go to any of Roma, Sevilla, Lyon, etc. I listed those clubs as places who also utilize talented youth players that still compete in Europe. As it stands, Gourcuff wouldn't even make Lyon's bench at the moment. I would like to see Gourcuff return to France, but he (stupidly) ruled it out. He said that other than Lyon, none of the other clubs are strong in L1, and that it's better to stay at Milan. Normally I like Gourcuff, but he really has no right to have an ego! He might be one of the handful of French players who won the CL, but it's not like he did a lot of playing to deserve it. Well, it’s too late for Gourcuff to go to any of Roma, Sevilla, Lyon, etc. I listed those clubs as places who also utilize talented youth players that still compete in Europe. As it stands, Gourcuff wouldn’t even make Lyon’s bench at the moment.

I would like to see Gourcuff return to France, but he (stupidly) ruled it out. He said that other than Lyon, none of the other clubs are strong in L1, and that it’s better to stay at Milan. Normally I like Gourcuff, but he really has no right to have an ego! He might be one of the handful of French players who won the CL, but it’s not like he did a lot of playing to deserve it.

]]> By: Magnusson http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/yoann-gourcuff-needs-to-get-the-hell-out-of-milan.html#comment-86706 Magnusson Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:13:08 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/yoann-gourcuff-needs-to-get-the-hell-out-of-milan.html#comment-86706 If it's a club for youngsters he needs, go to Amsterdam and do something. Like Inra said, Gourcuff needs to play, and maybe he's getting in his own way. He doesn't have his coache's confidence this year, he might as well move and swallow his ego. Staying there will make him an example of what not to do. Look at Silvestre Dabo and Zumana Camara, all bought from Rennes at Milan when they were way too young, the first one left after a year to go to ManU, the others stayed and stilldon't have a real career to speak of. And no ofense INara, he can't come to Lyon, he's not good enough, he needs somewhere where they'll let him play plenty and leave him alone. NOt Marseille either nor paris. He needs Rennes or Lens or maybe even Monaco. I'd like to see him play with Menez If it’s a club for youngsters he needs, go to Amsterdam and do something. Like Inra said, Gourcuff needs to play, and maybe he’s getting in his own way. He doesn’t have his coache’s confidence this year, he might as well move and swallow his ego. Staying there will make him an example of what not to do. Look at Silvestre Dabo and Zumana Camara, all bought from Rennes at Milan when they were way too young, the first one left after a year to go to ManU, the others stayed and stilldon’t have a real career to speak of.
And no ofense INara, he can’t come to Lyon, he’s not good enough, he needs somewhere where they’ll let him play plenty and leave him alone. NOt Marseille either nor paris. He needs Rennes or Lens or maybe even Monaco. I’d like to see him play with Menez

]]> By: Inara http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/yoann-gourcuff-needs-to-get-the-hell-out-of-milan.html#comment-86484 Inara Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:07:18 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/yoann-gourcuff-needs-to-get-the-hell-out-of-milan.html#comment-86484 First of all, Gourcuff is 22, not 16. He's already developed and has a lot of top flight experience. So he doesn't need to be further trained. He just needs to play. Anyway, just take a look at Diarra, who didn't even make the bench this weekend. It's not like Arsenal are lacking in midfielders. Gourcuff needs to go to a smaller club where he can play week in and week out. We all know he's very talented, so if he regains his form from 2005-2006, this time he'll be old enough to make it at a bigger club. <em>A move to Arsenal is a great decision for any young player.</em> No offense, but I disagree. Yes, Arsenal has a reputation for trusting young players (there have been several young flops out of Arsenal too), but there are other choices that can be just as good, like Barca and Manchester United. Roma, Sevilla, and Lyon are other big examples. A young (French) player like Gourcuff or the 500 others linked with Arsenal on a daily basis shouldn't jump on the bandwagon. Don't get me wrong, as I think Wenger has done a good job with his kids, but the assumption that Arsenal is the best play to go if you're a burgeoning player is wrong. First of all, Gourcuff is 22, not 16. He’s already developed and has a lot of top flight experience. So he doesn’t need to be further trained. He just needs to play.

Anyway, just take a look at Diarra, who didn’t even make the bench this weekend. It’s not like Arsenal are lacking in midfielders. Gourcuff needs to go to a smaller club where he can play week in and week out. We all know he’s very talented, so if he regains his form from 2005-2006, this time he’ll be old enough to make it at a bigger club.

A move to Arsenal is a great decision for any young player.

No offense, but I disagree. Yes, Arsenal has a reputation for trusting young players (there have been several young flops out of Arsenal too), but there are other choices that can be just as good, like Barca and Manchester United. Roma, Sevilla, and Lyon are other big examples.

A young (French) player like Gourcuff or the 500 others linked with Arsenal on a daily basis shouldn’t jump on the bandwagon. Don’t get me wrong, as I think Wenger has done a good job with his kids, but the assumption that Arsenal is the best play to go if you’re a burgeoning player is wrong.

]]> By: Michael http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/yoann-gourcuff-needs-to-get-the-hell-out-of-milan.html#comment-86476 Michael Mon, 17 Dec 2007 03:03:24 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/yoann-gourcuff-needs-to-get-the-hell-out-of-milan.html#comment-86476 A move to Arsenal is a great decision for any young player. I respect Arsene Wenger so much. What other top manager is so phenomenally good at developing young talent? I understand that the premier league and England have their drawbacks, but as far as developing and improving yourself goes, Arsenal is just a great club with a great staff. I haven't been following them as much as I should. I really wonder how well Diarra's been doing, especially after his development was stalled under Mourinho. A move to Arsenal is a great decision for any young player.

I respect Arsene Wenger so much. What other top manager is so phenomenally good at developing young talent? I understand that the premier league and England have their drawbacks, but as far as developing and improving yourself goes, Arsenal is just a great club with a great staff.

I haven’t been following them as much as I should. I really wonder how well Diarra’s been doing, especially after his development was stalled under Mourinho.

]]> By: Inara http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/yoann-gourcuff-needs-to-get-the-hell-out-of-milan.html#comment-86379 Inara Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:30:26 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/yoann-gourcuff-needs-to-get-the-hell-out-of-milan.html#comment-86379 Girard said that he couldn't afford to call up players who aren't playing regularly. That was a huge blow to Yoann because he is one of France's most talented young midfielders and a CL winner to boot. I mean, when even the U21 coach disses you...it doesn't say much about your prospects for the senior team. You know what's really ironic? Back in May 2006, Lyon tried to get Yoann, and Yoann agreed. Even a few months back, he said that going to Lyon and not Milan was his top choice. But Yoann's father, Lorient coach Christian Gourcuff, said that his son aught to move to Milan because at least they get somewhere in the CL. So Yoann ended up not coming to Lyon, who got his Rennes teammate Kim Kallstrom instead. And then last summer, Milan made efforts to get Tiago and sniffed around Kallstrom, who were both at Lyon at the time (Kallstrom still is). I hope Gourcuff is a lesson for all young prospects: don't leave too early! Girard said that he couldn’t afford to call up players who aren’t playing regularly. That was a huge blow to Yoann because he is one of France’s most talented young midfielders and a CL winner to boot. I mean, when even the U21 coach disses you…it doesn’t say much about your prospects for the senior team.

You know what’s really ironic? Back in May 2006, Lyon tried to get Yoann, and Yoann agreed. Even a few months back, he said that going to Lyon and not Milan was his top choice. But Yoann’s father, Lorient coach Christian Gourcuff, said that his son aught to move to Milan because at least they get somewhere in the CL. So Yoann ended up not coming to Lyon, who got his Rennes teammate Kim Kallstrom instead.

And then last summer, Milan made efforts to get Tiago and sniffed around Kallstrom, who were both at Lyon at the time (Kallstrom still is).

I hope Gourcuff is a lesson for all young prospects: don’t leave too early!

]]> By: Laurie http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/yoann-gourcuff-needs-to-get-the-hell-out-of-milan.html#comment-86372 Laurie Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:02:33 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/yoann-gourcuff-needs-to-get-the-hell-out-of-milan.html#comment-86372 I thought that was the case but didn't want to put it in because I wasn't certain. Thanks. I thought that was the case but didn’t want to put it in because I wasn’t certain. Thanks.

]]> By: Magnusson http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/yoann-gourcuff-needs-to-get-the-hell-out-of-milan.html#comment-86369 Magnusson Sun, 16 Dec 2007 15:58:19 +0000 http://www.theoffside.com/world-football/yoann-gourcuff-needs-to-get-the-hell-out-of-milan.html#comment-86369 What's more frightening for Gourcuff is that Rene Girard is not even calling him up for the U21 team anymore What’s more frightening for Gourcuff is that Rene Girard is not even calling him up for the U21 team anymore

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